Winds blowing seem to indicate getting TT is going to be a good thing, seem it should be in a different "John Doyle does not always suck" thread.
I had an interesting long conversation last week with someone who is not an insider but has been on the Earthquakes periphery for years and knows the staff well. It reaffirmed my belief that we are not getting much value from JD. Also that -- TT notwithstanding -- our youth academy is nowhere near where it should be.
Confirming everything we have been saying all along. Much like the position of President, being a GM isn't a job you should be learning from scratch as you go.
I wish him the best and a healthy recovery but while Don Garber is gone recovering from illness, maybe the league office will look to John Doyle to fill in for Don's absence? Either him or Time LAweakley....
Yeah I'm a little surprised he is getting that kind of money ... hopefully it means they are serious about him becoming a key cog in the team when his knee is fully healed.
Hey Doyle, what happened to your great defender , Devante Dubose from your Mustang Soccer Academy , Bishop O'Dowd High School and Virginia Tech?
I know it's been oft discussed on this forum, but here is the fundamental JD problem. Check it out. http://www.johndoylesoccercamps.com/about.html See anything there about his current job with the Quakes? Mustang is a huge youth league and he's running a lot of programs for them. According to one uncorroborated source, his income from Mustang two years ago was $2.7mm. According to my lunch source, when he was assistant coach for the Quakes under Dom, he never came to practices. So he has this sinecure with our team, essentially isn't doing his job, there are rumors that he's got some connections that keep him from getting fired, but somebody needs to cut through that, get him out, and bring someone in who can do a real job.
Which guy in the organization was responsible for the famous "no grey hairs" hired mantra regarding Johnny Moore? Was that Wolff? Fischer? Alioto? Moore poured all his energy into the Quakes. Instead we're stuck with Commander Part Time.
He and Dom were/are best friends so I'm sure he let him do whatever he wanted. Funny how Frank Yallop hired Dom and how Dom was Frank's assistant and basically it was Frank, Dom and then John and then John becomes Frank's boss. I'm sure another reason on why Frank and John probably didn't see eye to eye causing Frank to quit. Don't think I'd like taking orders form my former #3 guy at work, especially if he were being a jerk to deal with...
Never went to practices? As assistant coach? That's not the impression I had at the time, but hell, it might be true. I need to know more about this. As for JD never getting fired, it's clear that he has some level of protection, but everyone gets fired eventually. go quakes!! - Mark
When Dom's dad died, John was in charge of the team I believe in NY and won. That was the only game I believe he ever coached a team.
My source was an insider during the Dom years. Whether his memory is flawed, I can't say, but he had a front row seat. I understand that JD may have come to games then, but as you players and coaches know, the important stuff happens during the practices. You can't wait until the game to figure out your plan.
We actually drafted him in the 4th round of the MLS super draft this year. He plays for the Quakes U-23's now.
I went to a practice once back when Frank was coach the first time around and Dom and Doyle were assistant coaches. Dom was basically running the whole thing, while Frank watched closely and made encouraging comments like "nice idea...unlucky!". The only thing I heard Doyle say was to make a field goal joke when Ramiro skied a shot into the trees. Anyway, does John Fisher's son play in Mustang Youth Soccer, by any chance?
Yep. That was a trip - no locker rooms or even bathrooms at the site :--). Other than that, nice setting...
Therefore reiterating my initial thought of Frank not wanting to take orders from a guy who used to work below him. Don't know many people who would like the idea. You know out of all my years of watching soccer in this country, there isn't one game that goes by that someone doesn't obnoxiously yell out ,"three points" each time the ball goes high over the bar. After a while, its gets kind of annoying.
Doyle keeps Kaval safe. Kaval keeps Doyle safe. That's how it's been working and why it's going to take action from someone other than those two to get anything changed around here.
Of course both Lew and Kaval will have Doyle in their corner as they have no clue about the game other than being casual fans. I doubt either one ever played the sport other than maybe JR HS P.E. class.... Doyle will come up with his resume about playing in the Olympics, in the World Cup, in the MLS not to mention his academy. Of course they swallow everything he's got because they can't even come close to anything he has done in soccer. Whether you liked him as a player or not, he played at the highest level in this country and I don't think many GM's in the MLS can boast such a background.
Will never happen. Sac hates JD with a passion and only play nice with him because MLS told them too.