Joao Rodriguez news & comments

Discussion in 'Colombians Abroad' started by crzdcolombian, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. Clenbuterol

    Clenbuterol Red Card

    Aug 25, 2011
    Club:
    --other--
    Would be cool to have two Rodriguez dominate our offensive midfield the next 10-15 years.
     
  2. BlueRebelZ

    BlueRebelZ Member+

    Aug 2, 2011
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Singapore
    Could not reply before, thanks for the reply. Can you please transcript the main points he said there? Cheers.
     
  3. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  4. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Bueno, llego a Cali que alli manejan bien las inferiores
     
  5. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I would call him for this sub-20, he could add so much with Quintero next to him.
     
  6. BlueRebelZ

    BlueRebelZ Member+

    Aug 2, 2011
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Singapore
    Yeah he went back to Deportivo de Cali. As far as I heard, he might have had signed for Chelsea but will stay at Cali on loan.
     
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  7. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
  8. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Any news on Joao? I am curious if he went back to Chelsea or is he still at loan?
     
  9. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Tiene 17 y segun wiki esta en Quindio a prestamo
     
  10. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    It would be nice if he went on loan somewhere in europe.
     
  11. BlueRebelZ

    BlueRebelZ Member+

    Aug 2, 2011
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Singapore
    He attended our u21 team camp in US, trained with them & played a game or 2 probably. Will continue to do so till 18 at least when cross continental transfer of minors become legal. Won't be going to Europe soon, not before 18 at least.
     
  12. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    But does his rights still belong to Chelsea right? what i know is that he was loaned to Quindio
     
  13. BlueRebelZ

    BlueRebelZ Member+

    Aug 2, 2011
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Singapore
    Yeah Chelsea own him, currently on loan at Quindio.
     
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  14. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I really don't understand why Quindio doesn't use him. Their squad his that strong that the guy doesn't have a place there??
     
  15. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I find it stupid that he has to be 18 when you see European players being able to play there at age 16/17...
     
  16. BlueRebelZ

    BlueRebelZ Member+

    Aug 2, 2011
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Singapore
    FIFA rule. Cross-continental transfer of minors are prohibited(only exceptions are probably the Spanish duo).
     
  17. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Yeah well they need to stop being hypocrites towards 'discrimination'.
     
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  18. pibe10

    pibe10 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Petach Tikva, Israel
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Again, I couldn't find an answer why the kid doesn't get a shot in Quindio. They've nothing to lose.
     
  19. Drizinho

    Drizinho New Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Belgium
    Club:
    RSC Anderlecht
    #44 Drizinho, Sep 30, 2013
    Last edited: Sep 30, 2013
    Why would it be hypocrite? I don't know weather it will be very effective, but the idea behind the rule is pretty much ok.

    Since a few years clubs have to pay a 'training fee' for youngsters to the club that raised them. So what did the clubs do? They have started buying players at a younger and younger age. Look at Januzaj at ManU for example. ManU went after him while he was only 16 and playing for Anderlecht, and he was already quite 'old'. If we take Anderlecht: they built a state of the art youth center which already produced a number of international stars (Kompany, Lukaku), and keeps doing so massively (Januzaj, the Musonda brothers, younger Lukaku, Henen, Tielemans, Bosschaerts, Antonucci, Bruno...). What happens now is that the big clubs (mostly the English) come to scout at a younger and younger age. Henen is already out on loan to Monaco, Januzaj went to ManU, Bosschaerts is at ManC, the Musonda brothers at Chelsea (while only the youngest one has the real potential)... Just last week Barcelona contracted Zico Marecaldi, a 9 (!)-year old boy from Sweden.

    It's not about the kids anymore, or the fun of playing football. It has become a form of human traficking. Within Europe there's not much that can be done against this practices. In the European Union there's liberty of labour: every man is free to work in any country of the EU. The originial idea of this law lies outside of football and is good, but within the football environment it was often an excuse for human traficking.

    Internationally it's different. There are no EU-laws. And taking young kids out of their familiar environment and dropping them in a different climate, culture, whatever... is just not ok.
    Still, European clubs try to bend the rules a bit. There was a case in France with an Argentinian boy if I'm not mistaken. He had to wait until he was 18 before he could play. In Belgium the same happened with a Colombian boy. Oswal Alvarez is playing for Anderlecht, signed when he was 16, but had to wait until he was 18 to sign his contract. He's currently injured, but could play for the youth teams of Anderlecht last year, competing in the NextGen competition, and winning the highly rated Viareggio tournament.
    How do those clubs bend the rules? By providing jobs to their families. They don't buy the players, they buy the families, simple as that.

    For me it's not acting as hypocrites, it's just common sense...
     
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  20. pipevasquez

    pipevasquez Member+

    Sep 8, 2007
    Bogotá City
    Hoy será el primer día que Mancini me cae bien.
    Que lindo es ver sufrir a los detestables juventinos.
     
  21. BlueRebelZ

    BlueRebelZ Member+

    Aug 2, 2011
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Singapore
    Joao is currently in London, dunno if moved permanently.
     
  22. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    mas bien concencentrensen en subirle la calidad al equipo ese porque si no fuera por la Juventus y el Milan Italia estaria con el coeficiente mucho mas abajo
     
  23. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    mmm te equivocas el inter, con todo que no participa en europa esta temporada, sigue siendo el mejor ubicado de los italianos en el coeficiente....

    1FC Barcelona[​IMG] España157.605
    2FC Bayern Múnich[​IMG] Alemania146.922
    3Chelsea FC[​IMG] Inglaterra137.592
    4Real Madrid CF[​IMG] España136.605
    5Manchester United FC[​IMG] Inglaterra130.592
    6Arsenal FC[​IMG] Inglaterra113.592
    7FC Internazionale Milano[​IMG] Italia105.829
    8FC Porto[​IMG] Portugal104.833
    9SL Benfica[​IMG] Portugal102.833
    10Valencia CF[​IMG] España102.605
     
  24. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Como es posible? por la champions que ganaron en el 2010?
     
  25. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    en el 2011 llegaron hasta cuartos siendo lideres de grupo (ningun italiano lo hizo mejor)
    en el 2012, tambien ganaron grupo y los elimnaron en octavos (ningun italiano lo hizo mejor creo)
    en el 2013, llegaron hasta octavos de europa siendo lider de grupo europa league, ganando 16avos de final...

    milan, hace rato no lo veo en cuartos...

    y juve llevaba rato hasta el año pasado

    europa y ucl dan los mismos putnos en el coeficiente
     

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