J-League TV Rights

Discussion in 'Japanese Club Football' started by Blue-San, Dec 18, 2011.

  1. Blue-San Member

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    I am working on this now and have read what it says on the official J-League page however what I wonder about is. How is the money that the J-League receives from the TV rights distributed to the clubs.

    How much do each of them get and so on.


    Any one have any data on that?
          
  2. artml Member

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    Recently published AFC financial analysis had some data on this subject. No exact numbers IIRC, but at least you got the picture.
  3. Blue-San Member

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    Well never the less it was interesting to see. So basically clubs only get 4% of their total income from TV rights. Which is a bit strange but imo really good, because it makes them much more independent and also there are no things going on like LA Liga where 2 clubs would get the majority of the pie
  4. AKITOD Member

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    And it's definitely good that if it's 4% that the clubs don't depend on it.

    Especially because it means that when TV contracts are re-negotiated that J.league clubs won't have their future dependant on those talks.

    This is a problem in the A-League, where they're doing negotiations with FOX sports on a new TV deal, a deal which the A-League MASSIVELY depends on. But because it's not valued enough, the FFA has to sell the A-League rights along with the Socceroos rights in one package.

    Not to mention it helps stop a La Liga thing happening in Japan as Blue-San mentioned.
  5. Blue-San Member

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    After seeing this data however. One does wonder why would clubs sell their players to Europe for so little €

    I mean 3 mils is only like a 10% of the income for the average J-League club and we do know that prices are a lot lower than that and usually it is the above average club that sells...
  6. AKITOD Member

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  7. stefanole Member

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    Great news. It's good to hear the J League has a plan to expand their broadcasting partnerships also.
  8. theofaron Member

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    Very good news. I was doubtful whether this broadcasting deal would go through since we haven't heard about it in a while. They should set up a J-League stores in the capitals of these ASEAN countries!
  9. Lupin III Member

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    Well its not the size of the TV Money its how the money are split between Barca, Real and the rest of the clubs thats the problem. Here Japan are lucky in having a much more centralized league, split in 2 leagues as in Germany.

    When that is said personally I think the TV rights for J-League are too cheaply sold.

    I've always had the theory that Japanese peoples always been blinded by their many digits on the Yen. 10.000 Yen really sounds of a lot also for a Japanese, but in reality are nothing.

    Bad move I think having stores in ASEAN Countries, would the locals choose to buy jerseys of the mighty Premier League clubs or the Jerseys from clubs in their own backyard??? These guys would always choose a Man U jersey instead of a Jubilo jersey (even the J-league clubs has nicer colours).
  10. Majster2 Member

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    The only way out of this situation is getting ASEAN players by J League clubs. But that's clubs reponsibility, not J League. They already did what they could.
  11. Lupin III Member

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    True, and japanese clubs will always prefer to have a 4th. rated Brazilian playing than a top non japanese Asian Player in the club (lot has changed in Japanese football since 1993 but not this thing about brazilians).

    Its really one of the things I still can be surprised over that japanese automatically still thinks a bad brazilian player is superior to anybody else, because he comes from the only country playing football in the world (said ironically).
  12. fc koshigaya Member

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    I don't think that's completely true. Korea is putting alot of players in the J League. It's more a matter of communication. It's easier to acclimate a Brazilian player or a Korean player over a player from one of the ASEAN countries because guys have played with Brazilians

    Off the top of my head, Shimizu and Sanfrecce didn't have Brazilian players. Yokohama Marinos didn't and Avispa waited till the end to sign one. I think it's changing a bit.
  13. Lupin III Member

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    You are still only mentioning 4 clubs ;)

    It maybe changing but the tendency is still there. I am aware of the koreans and even korean coaches, its all a good thing but OK I think recently Japanese and Koreans are developing a mutual international society together as people in eurozone. It is fairly easy for koreans to learn Japanese and many has been studying in Japan also but still its only Korea more is needed but hey its not only a football issue ;)
  14. AKITOD Member

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    We'd need to have some players from ASEAN countries in the J.League.

    Problem with his is, with the 3+1 rule, the '1' is dominated by Koreans and a few Australians. And you know for damn sure that the clubs aren't selling merch in those countries.

    I've always thought it was a shame Japanese clubs didn't try bring in internationals from asian places like Iran or other middle-eastern countries (well not the rich ones like Qatar/UAE). There are some good players from places like Bahrain that could be bought cheap.

    No some countries it is about the amount of money. I mean, say if one year, the J.League negotiates a worse deal with money from TV networks. The J.League clubs won't just drop and fall over as a result.
    I have no quarrels about how the money is split in Japan.

    However in Australia, i see it in the stuff I read about the A-League, the TV deal with FOX sports is a massive amount of the clubs revenue (and the FFA's). If they screw that deal up, they'll have clubs going bankrupt.

    I agree the J.League could fetch more from TV deals.
  15. Vendo Thefastlane Member

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    I don't know how much can be mentioned, but I previously have brought up that Mito is doing a bit with Malaysia and various other things are going on in the league. But it is a SLOOOOOOOW process.
  16. fc koshigaya Member

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    Nagoya didn't have any Brazilians. Sendai had Marquinhos early and Diego in token appearances. Montedio had two on the roster....one left and the other one didn't play at all.

    Albirex would be the most likely team to break the ASEAN barrier considering they have ties to Singapore but they haven't. I think it's going to have to start in J2 with one of the newer squads looking to fill spots on the cheap.
  17. Saku² Member+

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    Probably because a 4th rated Brazilian has more chances to be good than a top non japanese asian player (excluding Korean) so far.
  18. artml Member

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    This.

    ASEAN is simply not good enough. Even in the A-League, which has lower standard, I can recall only Surat Sukha achieving some sort of success. I've seen plenty of China, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia and Vietnam NTs matches for the last two years, and can't imagine a player that might really make an impact in J. League.

    So Korea(s) and Australia will remain the source of 4th foreigners for the time being.
  19. Lupin III Member

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    I remember Gainare Tottori had Thai ties back in the JFL years, with a Thai manager who took them to a 5th. place... was it in 2009?
  20. Blue-San Member

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    Well Albirex has a foobtall school in Singapore --> Albirex Niigata Singapore


    But Japan has an amazingly well done football system from Primary school way up to professional league, with which no other country in Asia can compare, perhaps South Korea
  21. GunnerTNB Member

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    Whittaya Laohakul managed Tottori from 2007 to 2010. He's also a former Yanmar and Matsushita player.
  22. Vendo Thefastlane Member

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    I just made the switch from SkyPerfect to SkyPerfect HD (I know, I'm late) and had to reorder channels. When you get the soccer pack, the operator asks which J. League team you support. Apparently that team gets some kind of monetary bonus for attracting you to the order.
  23. Lupin III Member

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    So Mito gets 100 yen extra from you? :rolleyes: sorry couldnt resist I actually like Mito very much.
  24. theofaron Member

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    That's actually really neat!

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