It looks like they probably will: EURO 2012

Discussion in 'Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, & the former Soviet Repu' started by Dimuha, Nov 2, 2011.

  1. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    They called up Martin Kelly....that's a huge drop off.
     
  2. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's a right back I think.
     
  3. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    Apparently, he's Cahill's back up.
     
  4. Drake44444

    Drake44444 Member

    Jul 5, 2008
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He is a full back. Hodgson chose him over calling Ferdinand. Micah Richards turned down being on the backup list, so thats why Martin Kelly was on it. Smalling, Dawson injured.

    Phil Jones, Jagielka are CB backups. Lescott will likely start.
     
  5. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. England are really quite terrible this go around.
     
  6. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    I was actually looking forward to seeing Wilshere and Rooney play together until the former got injured.
     
  7. Drake44444

    Drake44444 Member

    Jul 5, 2008
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wilshire's been injured for like a year, and Rooney suspended since about 8 months ago.

    You started looking forward to watching England play a year in advance of the actual game?
     
  8. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    I was looking forward to seeing him and Rooney play for England, anywhere.
     
  9. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Great stuff from ESPN again.

     
  10. Senior Tigr

    Senior Tigr Member

    Jun 6, 2008
    Warsaw, Poland
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    Good article, however the part about bare hands and not attacking ordinary people is not an unbreakable rule - there are still some thugs who takes knuckles/knives/machetes when heading to the fight and there was some loud cases when some groups of masked hools attacked "enemy" clubs kid's teams (and their parents) when they were playing matches.
    But generally it is not as bad as was portrayed in the BBC film. I liked the joke that someone could make a similar film against London Olympics based on the last year riots; it would be the same level of generalisation.
     
  11. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    I saw the football factory doc on Krakow hooligan groups and those guys were absolute scumbags. Used knives and bats on one another which is a huge no-no in Russian football. If you guys have the time check it out as well as the Russian one, then contrast the two nations ultras groups. Difference is startling.
     
  12. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Yes, you have got to admit, Russian and Ukrainian hoolie fights do have some rules that the members are made to follow, such as no weapons and not attacking the fallen. I am not saying that it makes these behaviors acceptable, I am just pointing out that there is soome code, which seems lacking from the Polish hooligans.
     
  13. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    The Polish hools are like criminal gangs. They control their own housing estates and the hate over there between fan groups is vicious.
     
  14. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Frankly is a bunch of idiots want to go out and crack skulls in the middle of the forest and they don't touch anybody else, have it.
     
  15. Area 51

    Area 51 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Whose starting in goal for you guys?
     
  16. goliath74

    goliath74 Member

    May 24, 2006
    Hollywood, FL, United States
    Club:
    FC Dynamo Kyiv
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Looks like Pyatov
     
  17. Area 51

    Area 51 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I meant russia;)

    I assumed pyatov would start, by far the most experienced.

    I think with how vunerable England look Ukraine might just have a decent chance at getting out of the group..especially at home.
     
  18. Drake44444

    Drake44444 Member

    Jul 5, 2008
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My guess is Akinfeev.
     
  19. Zenit

    Zenit Moderator
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    Jun 3, 2000
    Above the Tear Line
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I took at that roster and came to the conclusion that this is easily the worst England squad playing in a WC or Euro championship that I can ever remember.

    Of course, other than Spain and maybe Germany, there's a lot of teams that are perennial powerhouses that at first glance have less than overwhelming talent on their rosters this go 'round - Italy, France, Portugal, the Dutch, just to name a few.

    Of course, I will be once again pulling for Russia and the Dutch, but I think when it comes to pick a winner in my pool, I think I'm going with the Krauts. But I wouldn't be surprised at all this year if a darkhorse team pulls off an upset, for the simple reason that so many of the usual big gun suspects look a bit underwhelming this year, with a clear lack of depth.
     
    Real Corona repped this.
  20. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Generally agree its the Germans and Spanish above the rest and that leaves it open for a dark horse from anywhere, be it from Russia to Portugal
     
  21. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
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    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    I picked Netherlands.
     
  22. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd put them third. Not in final position but in a sort of power ranking.
     
  23. Dimuha

    Dimuha Member

    Oct 18, 2007
    northpole Chicago
    Club:
    CSKA Moskva
    Nat'l Team:
    Russia
    I'd have them fourth behind France. Of course the favorites never all make it to the semis and we'll probably see some a surprise there like Russia, Poland, Ukraine, or Croatia.
     
  24. Real Corona

    Real Corona Member+

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry but as painful as it is to say Ukraine have a slightly higher chance to win as the US does.
     
  25. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    I have Ukraine and France advancing. England just look terrible.
     

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