Is It Time for Gabarra to Go?

Discussion in 'Washington Freedom' started by cwimmer77, Jul 29, 2010.

  1. osgood

    osgood New Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I don't think he is campaigning for the job, but here is the facts about Philly Team. Foley was the one who has done all of the trading during the season and was heavily involved in the recruiting the current Philly team. If you speak to the coach Paul Riley he will be the first to tell you that Terry Foley was the one that put the team together. In saying that I think he is worth a look at.
     
  2. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    osgood, I don't want to be rude, but 3 of your 8 posts suggest hiring Foley for a WPS team. I know we all have our own personal hobby horses but are you a former player of Foley's or a personal friend of his? Those are rhetorical questions, really, as I'm not expecting you to reveal personal info about yourself. I'm just noting the curiously high proportion of "hire Foley" posts.
     
  3. SCCL

    SCCL Member

    Oct 31, 2001
    Foley may have done a decent job of getting the starters on the Philly team; but his finessing ended there. The Japanese player was a total washout and the team's depth leaves much to be desired. I may be wrong but I don't think he brought DiMartino in, which was the only thing they did right after St. Louis folded. Maybe Philly is more constrained by budget than other teams, but they should have done a better job of stocking the team than they did. I would imagine there will be some decent changes in the off season.

    Also, just because he can recognize SOME talent doesn't mean he can coach, at least not at this level.
     
  4. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're right - my bad. But still:



    Big Soccer: 6. 6. 3-4. <4. 3-4. 5. "definitely not good." 5. 7. 3. <4. 5. (<4 meaning outside of a playoff position.)

    Can only find one prediction of a
    #6 finish on the season. But I don't recall very many people expecting the Freedom to be one of the top teams, considering that Whitehill and Wambach were recovering from injuries, Krieger was in Germany, Huffman was out for the season, and hardly anyone realized what a phenomenon Bompastor was going to be.
     
  5. osgood

    osgood New Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I am neither an ex player or friend, i am actually a coach in atlanta that as coached against foley and riley for many years. Am i campaigning for him no but i am an advocate for his ability to coach yes. There are 5 people who have experience and success in this league the last two years, naimo/rogers [la sol+ marta] montoya fcgp + marta and foley/riley at philly. Three are coaches and i would like to see the other two coach also. If there was an LA team i would be an advocate for abner rogers. One the east coast i think foley deserves a crack somewhere. I will not comment anymore on this subject. I will let you assume what you like
     
  6. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the reply. Please don't stop posting about coaches you think are good candidates. I was just curious. When someone with a very low post count makes multiple pitches for the same person, it is natural to wonder.
     
  7. osgood

    osgood New Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    I will keep posting from time to time kool-aide.
    Like yourself i want the league to be around i enjoy watching the games.
    It should be a good game tonight i hope you will be watching it
     
  8. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gabarra resigns. I wish Gabarra all the best in his next venture. He was at the Freedom for a long time. I hope WPS and the Freedom play next season.
     
  9. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Jim Gabarra kept the Washington Freedom going for many years. I hope that he stays with the organization in some sort of capacity.

    I remember the Freedom were going to play in Cincinnati against U of C and Xavier about 6 or seven years ago with guest stars like Heather Mitts. I was "jonesing" for pro womens game after the WUSA folded so I drove 4 hours from Chicago to see that and I was appreciative that someone like Jim Gabarra cared enough of the women's game to keep it going.

    He deserves a lot of respect.
     
  11. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    more from Goff twitter

    Does he mean Washo?
     
  12. osgood

    osgood New Member

    Aug 1, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Kool-Aide like yourself i want to wish Jim all the best.
    He as done wonders for the womens game.
    I hope you stay in it Jim in some shape or form
     
  13. Morris20

    Morris20 Member

    Jul 4, 2000
    Upper 90 of nowhere
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    You must spread reputation around . . . well said!
     
  14. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do wonder how much of the Freedom soccer-for-all-ages approach is down to him. I hope that will be kept up even without him and Clyde, but I'm already hearing ugly rumors that there'll be no W-League team next year.
     
  15. moog

    moog Member

    Mar 2, 2003
    eastern PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Independence
    They may be doing that to save money so they can keep operating in WPS. It sucks, but better no W-League team than no WPS team.
     
  16. keeper1223

    keeper1223 New Member

    Aug 6, 2010
    Gabarra and Watson are two extremely qualified, dedicated, and loyal coaches. Gabarra kept the Freedom going and gave the girls a place to play even when there wasn't a league. He is the only coach to have made the WPS play-offs both years. The stats and records of these coaches can be found, what can not be measured is the strong loyalty and commitment Gabarra and Watson have for women's soccer. It is a HUGE red flag that management/ownership let the two of them go. Anyone else see that?

    The Freedom will not be the same. Good luck to Jim and thank you!
     
  17. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just hope it doesn't go any further than that. I'd go along with that, but not with better no youth teams at all than no WPS team.
     
  18. pasoccerdad

    pasoccerdad Member

    Mar 17, 2008
    KOP
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He Actually ran the team for all the years in between the league. They were an exhibition team for a year or 2 before joining the W-League

    He did a Great Job... Guessing they did not want to fire the GM. This is surprising considering the relationship he has had with the Team Owners all these years
     
  19. StarCityFan

    StarCityFan BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 2, 2001
    Greenbelt, MD
    Club:
    Washington Freedom
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, the Freedom were a "barnstorming" team in 2004 and 2005 before joining the W-League as an associate member in 2006 and a full member in 2007. 2005 was a lot of fun, actually - Gabarra managed to recruit topnotch players like Betsy Barr, Tiffany Roberts, Kylie Bivens, and Emily Janss, and to persuade high-profile players like Sun Wen and Brandi Chastain to participate as guest players. The Freedom also played a home-and-home series with Charlie Naimo's eventual W-League champion New Jersey Wildcats and gave them a run for their money - the match in New Jersey (a 1-1 draw) is still one of the best women's club matches I've watched in person.
     
  20. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was wondering about the status of the GM w/ this shakeup, myself. Of course, given the general fear for WPS longevity, I'll just hope that the team survives.

    I've got to believe Gabarra will land on his feet.
     
  21. SCCL

    SCCL Member

    Oct 31, 2001
    Well, Gabarra had the talent, so you can't blame Washo for that.
     
  22. keeper1223

    keeper1223 New Member

    Aug 6, 2010
    and made it to the play-offs with that talent...your point?
     
  23. SCCL

    SCCL Member

    Oct 31, 2001

    Point being - they didn't have the season they should have with the talent they had.
     
  24. kool-aide

    kool-aide Member+

    Feb 1, 2002
    a van by the river
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's clearly what management thinks. But if you look deeper at the team and the injuries, I'm not so sure--that midfield looked weak at the beginning of the season and was week all season. With De Vanna injured, another partnership w/ Abby never really developed. The real mistake Gabarra made (if it was his mistake and not a joint decision w/ the GM) might have been leaving Lindsey unprotected and keeping Sawa.

    I brought up the GM b/c of off-field items not achieving the goals I think ownership hoped to meet (eg attendance)
     
  25. SCCL

    SCCL Member

    Oct 31, 2001
    Well, I do agree that it was a mistake for them to let Lindsey go. And I also think they should have picked up someone when St. Louis folded. But that also depends on where those players wanted to go, and it seems a lot of them wanted to continue to play together, in Atlanta. But I also think that Gabarra did not make good use of his midfield last year, holding Lindsey and Sawa back, and the mistake was obviously compounded when they let Lindsey go and no one else stepped up.
     

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