Is Bryan Ruiz the best player in the Concacaf region?

Discussion in 'CONCACAF' started by MoRado, Mar 29, 2010.

  1. Celtigo

    Celtigo Member

    Jul 10, 2009
    Great Lakes Region (The Other One)
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, uh, that Bryan Ruiz sure is a good player huh? Nice goal to ice it this weekend.
     
  2. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    Ronaldo, Romario, Zlatan Ibrahimovic, 50% of the Belgian national team including those that now play in the premiership, etc. all started their international career in the NL precisely because it's seen as a good start of a career in Europe's elite.

    I don't even know what this comment is about. The Dutch Antilles have a population of about three hunderd thousand if I'm not mistaken, and football isn't even the most popular sport over there. It's baseball.
     
  3. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    It's not just about the quality of the football, it's about the quality of the system in general. Which league has a better reputation for developing young talent, both domestic and foreign, for example? How many Dutch coaches are managing foreign teams, how many Mexican coaches are managing foreign teams? Again the Dutch league has pretty big financial limitations. In terms of young players getting a high quality technical and tactical education though, the Dutch league is very highly regarded still. It's precisely because of a lack of financial resources that clubs are forced to get the most out of their investment in youth development. Dutch clubs NEED to improve their players as they live off buying on the cheap and selling for big bucks.
     
  4. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Mi amigo, la ignorancia está por todas partes.
     
  5. Moises

    Moises Member

    Feb 8, 2007
    miami
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    your retard.
     
  6. Socrates_81

    Socrates_81 Red Card

    May 27, 2008
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    That part in bold where he says that made me realize i'm wasting my time. lol
     
  7. Vamos Ticos

    Vamos Ticos Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    This is off topic but...MLS is improving but it's no where near the Mexican League....MLS still has no international achievements...I know they have only been around for like 15 years...but with the money they have compared to Central American leagues...they should at least have 1 CONCACAF title...but they don't....Alajuelense and Saprissa have 1 title each and a couple of 2nd place...and Olimpia has 1 title.

    Back on topic...i'm 100% positive that Bryan Ruiz wouldn't have improved as much if he was in the Mexican League instead of starting in Belgium (where he became much stronger because he was a twig playing with Alajuelense) and then moving to Holland and learning so much tactically and improving a lot to where now he has teams like Sevilla, Villareal, and Everton interested in him. IMO comparing the Mexican League to the Dutch league is like comparing the MLS to the Mexican League...but w.e i know most of the Mexican's here will bash this comment :D.
     
  8. Moises

    Moises Member

    Feb 8, 2007
    miami
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    not really.......MLS has no teams their all equal unlike MExico and Holland who have prestige clubs.....
     
  9. Moises

    Moises Member

    Feb 8, 2007
    miami
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
  10. Celtigo

    Celtigo Member

    Jul 10, 2009
    Great Lakes Region (The Other One)
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS is designed to keep clubs at the median and in many ways it makes sense, but it basically ensures we won't have a super club like Saprissa or Olimpia to represent the national league. However MLS is better top to bottom than every CONCACAF league save Mexico. Not that the bar is that high.
     
  11. Moises

    Moises Member

    Feb 8, 2007
    miami
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    I feel that even on a very good day for a MLS team and a very good day for a Honduran team.....Honduran team can rape anyone in MLS.
     
  12. Celtigo

    Celtigo Member

    Jul 10, 2009
    Great Lakes Region (The Other One)
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Top to bottom? No. Once you get beyond the best 2 or 3 teams in most of the Central American leagues the bottom really falls out. If you look at the history of the MLS playoffs in the past, you can get teams that finished well behind the leaders win or advance to the title round on a regular basis.
     
  13. aguimarães

    aguimarães Member

    Apr 19, 2006
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    This isn't necessarily a good thing. It'll be a long time before the MLS is competitive internationally if the talent is spread thinly throughout the league.
    Just going off statistics/international results (Saprissa and Alajuelense mainly) you would think the Costa Rican league is better than MLS.
     
  14. Celtigo

    Celtigo Member

    Jul 10, 2009
    Great Lakes Region (The Other One)
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree that its a definite drawback on the international scene and leads to teams like the 2008-9 NYRB (who were horrendous for the most part) as a representative in the CCL, but its probably the best format to ensure domestic growth in the league and to a certain extent thats all that matters. the US/Canadian market is large enough and rich enough that as long as MLS keeps growing (and if it reaches the even an NHL level of popularity, it will be much wealthier than every other league outside of the Big 4/5), the parity won't really matter. I fully agree that its a detriment in the short term though.
     
  15. MoRado

    MoRado New Member

    Feb 6, 2004
    San José. Costa Rica
    Club:
    Deportivo Saprissa
    Nat'l Team:
    Costa Rica
    This thread is about Bryan Ruiz... dont transform it into a MEX/MLS thing please...
     
  16. Socrates_81

    Socrates_81 Red Card

    May 27, 2008
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    It was actually an FMF vs Dutch league thread...and then it morphed into an FMF vs MLS thread. :p


    My answer to the thread question, it's arguable.
     
  17. evangel

    evangel Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
  18. munichfan9

    munichfan9 BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Aug 7, 2005
    Burke, Virginia
    this guy is retarded....wasnt the last match between the two between dc united and olimpia?? i think dc united won 4-1 in honduras and 2-1 in dc
     
  19. Moises

    Moises Member

    Feb 8, 2007
    miami
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    this was back in 2007. times have change twat.
     
  20. aguimarães

    aguimarães Member

    Apr 19, 2006
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    On topic guys.
     
  21. Vamos Ticos

    Vamos Ticos Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    Well there were rumors of Atletico Madrid and Villareal also having interest....but Sevilla seems to be the one team that keeps showing strong interest since Fabiano might be headed to Italy and Kanoute isn't getting any younger. Everton scouts were Twente's match vs Sparta 2 weeks ago where Ruiz scored a hat trick...but i don't think he'll go there. There were also rumors of Arsenal but Ruiz main goal is to play in one of Spain's top 4-5 clubs and Sevilla is looking to rebuild incase they make CL.
     
  22. Bolivianfuego

    Bolivianfuego Your favorite Bolivian

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Va
    Club:
    Bolivar La Paz
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Yes! Isnt Ruiz the highest scorer in Holland right now? His touch, ability to dribble and see passes is world class. I have a feeling he will make the jump to one of the top 3 and continue doing well.

    Sevilla or Villarreal would be interesting.
     
  23. Vamos Ticos

    Vamos Ticos Member

    Jul 18, 2006
    Charrua Luis Suarez leads the Eredivisie with 29 goals and Bryan Ruiz is 2nd with 23 goals.

    Bryan Ruiz has proven to be a 1st class player on and off the field....he is very humble and a hard worker...during the winter vacation he practiced with his old club Alajuelense in Costa Rica instead of taking a few days off like the rest of the Costa Rican abroad players. He has the same work ethic Wanchope had...too bad our other players don't think big like Ruiz :rolleyes:.
     

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