Bayern Munich are dominating Europa as the best team. The balance of power in world football is shifting from Spain to Germany. Bayern munich is right now stronger than Barca.
Best now? Bayern. Dominating Europe? I don't know. It's not like they've routinely won the CL annually. They're the best side, but the gap between them and the best of the rest isn't that big. Balance of power shifting from Spain to Germany? It's too much said. For one team that goes to the late stages routinely, Spain has two. And of course Germany's NT hasn't done what Spain has done lately. I think if one puts the BuLi and Liga sides today to ranking, Germany has the number 1, but Spain has the next three. It will be interesting to see what happens in the four, five years though.
Why Barcelona? Their peak ended at 2011. That's when they were defeated by Chelsea next year in the semi finals. Bayern Munich has been very successful in the past 10 years. With a bit more luck, they could've had more CL than Real Madrid by the number of close times they've been in the finals.
Yes, Bayern are esily the best club right now especially by 3 main reasons: - UCL champs - World club Champs - beating Barca (2nd best team) by 7-0 over 2 occasions (= so convincing)
How is Barcelona the second best team if they lost 7-0? Wouldn't that be Dortmund, Real Madrid, Manchester City or Arsenal? Considering their results against BM?
Barca lost 7-0 in few games (vs Bayern) but overall they could beat Dormund at ANY TIME, besides the fact they had a great win record in liga + UCL
This is what will happen on the next 4-5 years. Every time a team wins the CL, that will be considered the best team and the best league in Europe until the next CL is over. That is the knee jerk reaction people have towards everything. They judge based on the result of the tournament and not on the actual team and expectations. You never know how teams are going to do. At the beginning of the year people were saying how Man U could once again run away with the title early because of what they did last year... Now.. opinions are different, why? because they have results to base their opinion on. By the way Opinion based on results? i rather read the newspaper.
And Barca haven't? 3 CL wins and 6 La Ligas in those 10 years. Bayern 1 CL and 5 Bundesligas. Oh right you have an agenda (ie. Barca hatred), so your posts won't agree with facts.
As far as the season has come out so far I would put Bayern first, Man City second (they have picked up steam!)
The two top German club teams are the two best in the world right now. Dortmond and Bayern Munich. We will see if that can effect this WC since there are a ton of players from those clubs on the German WC team.
It's not really like that, though. I mean - while all the credit to Chelsea - I don't think people thought they're the number one team when they won it. Also, I don't think too many people said that about ManU.
truth is sad ... is not it ... People evaluate a league based on the TOP 2 or 3 teams only ... like Media selling papers on Beckham, CR7 or Messi more so than say ... Lucas or Di Maria ... (who are very good players as well LOL)
See, most people are able to process that not always the best team is the winner. But even you are answering people that claim the top 2 teams are from Germany because that was last year's final. You are in the minority. When Chelsea won people were not saying Chelsea was the best but, the EPL was the strongest league because the CL winner couldn't even win their own domestic leagues.
Borussia Dortmund is third in the Bundesliga, but they're 14 points behind their league's leader just like seventh place Manchester United, and Bayern Munich has 1 fewer game played than Borussia Dortmund.
You realize the results the other team I mentioned had against Bayern Munich, right? Real Madrid barely lost out to Bayern Munich, same with Dortmund, and other teams, ALL had better results. I mean, WERDER BREMEN lost 7-0 to Bayern Munich. In one game, but two legs is basically the same thing.
Also if you ask people to name the best two clubs, the majority won't answer Bayern and Dortmund. I mean Bayern sure, but Dortmund? No.
Rating a team not only by one or two games ... OK? The reason I brought Barca lost to Bayern because they both had very close record in wining over all plus they both have similar quality in the team. Wender bremen are also a very good team and thank to their great coach
Bayern Real and Barca are Europe's Superclubs, their respective leagues protects them and shields them from all harm, plus gives them lots of money! Those 3 clubs are equally the best clubs in the world. Man U is not far behind, but their league doesn't protect them as much. Spain would never accept a bunch of oil moguls coming in and taking on their 2 babies.
you example of Dormund winning over Bayern (1 or 2 games) did not reflect much.... Barca lost 3games 7goals to Bayern but they got 100+ games with greast winning record besides them