Yes. As I stated earlier in the thread, imo (which I admit means next to nothing), Hamid is the (marginally) better keeper. I also think he is incredibly over-hyped and people make excuses for him. Why, I don't know, maybe it's the homegrown thing, or the Nats call ups. He is young and has great potential because he has a big head start by playing professionally at such a young age. However, at this stage in their careers, there are many keepers I would rather have than Hamid, again in my admittedly amateurish perspective. Jon Busch, Dan Kennedy, Matt Pickens, Andy Gruenebaum, Tally Hall, Joe Saunders, Nick Rimando, Jimmy Nielsen, if anyone was wondering. Kevin Hartman and Joe Cannon might be a touch past it, but it's still a close call.
Of the top 20 GK in MLS with a minimum 8 games played, Hamid ranks number one in fewest goals per game and fewest goals per minute (Jimmy Nielsen has the same numbers). He also has the 2nd highest clean-sheet per game average (behind Jimmy Nielsen and tied with Joe Cannon) I ain't much for stats, but Willis ain't the greener grass, don't know what you're smokin'.
So, your whole point is that Hamid is overrated? As for that list of other MLS keepers, that's nice, but how is it relevant at all? By the way, a quick glance at the salaries of the keepers you listed - Hamid makes somewhere less than half to 1/3 of all of them, save for Saunders and Gruenebaum. He's young, he's cheap, his homegrown status still helps against the cap (I think), and leaving the nitpicking of his skillset aside, he's certainly good enough - even without accounting for his potential to grow and mature in the position.
Well, giving up five against San Jose with duct tape defense will hurt the ol' goals against. Without that game, Willis has given up one more goal than Hamid in the same amount of minutes (that howler he gave up to Will Bruin, perhaps?). Those stats aren't very compelling, but nevertheless, an 81% save percentage for Hamid (second best in the league from anyone who has played seven or more games) is very impressive. So, well played.
Do you guys really think those shots were too much for any keeper? Or do you just think I'm being overly critical, aka, a dick. One I understand completely, the other not at all.
If you're in a relationship, time to start seeing other people. Hamid truly fcked the team tonight. A top flight keeper doesn't do that, and the team deserves better.
Hamid has the natural talent but he's young. He's not mentally ready to be a top keeper. He has plenty of time to learn the mental part of the game. Hell he has 10 years until the time goalies usually peak.
If he's our goalie he needs to learn pretty damned quick. Remember Louis Crayton? He was plenty athletic but had the maturity of an 8 year old. Bill needs to coffee up. If I were his teammate I'd be fuming. Lord knows what Ben will say, but I'm guessing it will not be nice.
That's why I like Willis better -- no drama. Not the same athletic upside, but much more mature. You need smart, settled keepers like Onstad was, or ********ing lunatics like Jon Busch. You just don't need cement heads holding down the only position on the field that has the luxury of seeing the entire game before him.
I'm not saying Hamid shouldn't be held accountable. His play tonight wasn't a case of an honest mistake, or a fluke. It was a case of genuine mental laziness and lack of awareness. I'm perfectly fine with the pendulum swinging back to Willis for the time being. After all Willis was benched for less after the San Jose game. Willis's is mistakes in that San Jose game were not mental, they were just the fact that he was a split second too slow on a couple of shots that were saveable. What I do roll my eyes at is the statement that Hamid "sucks". The guy has more natural talent than most goalies his age. He also seems to have good character which means he should improve his game as he gets older and more experienced.
This is twice now for Hamid, also last year in the Toronto game. Mental lapse, may have cost the points and these could be big. Hopefully he will learn and stay on his feet. Like Willis did, also in the first half, almost the exact same situation and place on the field. Willis stayed on his feet, Kandji dribbled around him, Willis scampered back into goal and nothing came of it. Even if Kandji scores, there's no red and it's still a game.
Louis Crayton, the most interesting goalkeeper in the world, will be bad-mouthed no further or you will face my wrath. Consider yourself warned.
Have a good night? Another trip to the emergency room and filing for a protective order that you never intend to enforce. Good times.
I pretty much agree with this assessment. The kid's got talent, but needs a little more seasoning and maturity before he becomes a real top talent. My only worry for him earlier was that some of the accolades he got early on this season and end of last may have gotten to his head a bit in the way they did for Bobby Boswell a few years ago, but the way he handled being back up to Willis restored my faith that Onstad and Olsen are grooming him the right way. He'll make mistakes, no doubt, and as a United fan I don't have the patience to wait 10 years for him to be great, we need good to great now. Whether it is him or Willis (or someone else) doesn't matter as long as they help us win now. Maybe another game or two on the bench (or 5 if Willis is in the zone) after the suspension is served will help him grow and help us this year and next. But if Willis is our best option now for the rest of the campaign then I'm all for that too, regardless of what it does to Hamid's transfer value this season.
I think Hamid reacted too late, and then compounded the error by dropping to his left side rather than his right. If Kandji had tripped over Bill's torso while Bill was trying to stop the ball with his arms/hands the ref might not have pulled out the red. As it was, a red was proper for the leg whip.
Everyone that knows me knows that I love numbers and I gotta say, you all are just being dumb with your overreactions. Let's check the stats about Hamid vs. Willis again from the Houston game: Hamid: 0 GA Willis: 4 GA It amazes me that anyone with vision good enough to post here can overlook that obvious barometer of aptitude.
These stats tell a better story, I think: http://stats.washingtonpost.com/mls/teamstats.asp?team=5 Code: MP Min GA GAA PA PKF PK SvPct Svs SHT SHT-OG SPct CS YC RC Joe Willis 10 881 18 1.84 2 2 0.0 29 140 47 61.7 2 0 0 Bill Hamid 10 827 8 0.87 0 0 - 41 136 50 83.7 4 1 1 Totals 19 - 26 1.37 0 0 - 70 276 97 72.9 6 1 1
In my opinion Hamid is among the top 5 goalies in the league. Other than this play I can't think of any glaring mistakes I've seen Hamid make this season, and I can think of a number of big saves he's made. He's improved so much from last season, and he's only gonna get better. Also something that is not to be underestimated is that the defense seems to be MUCH more organized under Hamid than under Willis. I'm not a goalkeeping expert, but it just seems to be the case to me. Hamid is also a lot more vocal than Willis. I'm comfortable with both goalies, but to me Hamid is clearly the starter.