What an absolute disgrace. This has to be one of the most outrageous things I've seen in football. There is zero justification for Arsene Wenger finishing above Alex Ferguson or Mourinho. I guess this confirms it; IFFHS and their formulas are nothing but a joke. Wenger has not won anything for the 2nd half of the decade but yet is still he somehow better than than Manager who have directly competed against him during the period in question and have beaten him!? From 2001 to 2010: The following managers gave won... Alex Ferguson: - 6x Premier League - 3x League Cup - 1x Champions League - 1x FA Cup - 1x Club World Cup Jose Mourinho - 2x Premier League - 2x Italian League - 2x Portuguese League - 2x Champions League - 1x Uefa Cup - 1x FA Cup - 1x Italian Cup - 1x Portuguese Cup - 2x Carling Cup And Wenger......... Arsene Wenger: - 2x Premier Leagues - 3x FA Cup ------------------ Trophies indicate how great a Manager is and in Arsene Wenger's case he is not the best Manager of the decade due to the fact he has not delivered a trophy to Arsenal for the 2nd half of the decade. He has not even won the annual vote. What do you guys think?
That statement right there is debatable though. I would probably put Hiddink and Lippi ahead of Wenger though. Those 2 managers did more even though they were in much the same situation as Wenger (ie. didn't always have the best players). They both had a forgettable 2010 World Cup mind you.
It should go to Mourinho. He's been a Manager for only ten years and the only team he hasn't been successful is his first club Benfica, who he left after only 9 games when the club president refused to back him despite a good start. He next went on to work wonders at Uniao de Leiria (which debunks the common, lazy theory employed by his detractors that he's only done it at "big clubs") which got him the Porto job. From 2003 onwards he has won a major trophy every season but 2008 when he left Chelsea, which only occured due to a falling out with Roman Abramovich. To coach three different teams and have such an enormous level of success so quickly with each is no fluke. He has an incredible record and I see no way that any coach or manager, including Ferguson or Lippi, can be ranked above him this decade.
hasnt the so called IFFHS been exposed to be just some dude pretending he is a network of experts. probably duck mason.
Ever since Wenger didn't play Bergkamp and Van Persie in the 2006 CL final I have a lot of difficulty taking him seriously.
IFFHS is a 70-year old guy sitting in a basement who enjoys doing press releases. He has no organization and is just trying to get into the spotlight. He fooled many people for years though especially with his referee rankings.
Arsene Wenger "World's Best Manager of The Decade" doesn't seem so ridiculous right now though. If Mourinho did what Wenger did yesterday, how many people would be creaming their pants over Mou?
Not really, or at least in this context. Actually it still does. One lucky win over Barcelona now does not retrospectively change the fact Arsene Wenger has not won anything in 5 out of 10 years OR that Jose Mourinho AND Alex Ferguson have won and done more to merit that title. I do not see how anything he does now could change that? And FYI: Jose Mourinho did accomplish what Arsene Wenger did the other night, but with 1 more goal, when Inter bear Barcelona 3 - 1 at the Giuseppe Mezza and no one creamed their pants.
Wenger is better because even though he has won fewer trophies, he has accomplished what he has while spending far less than any other manager. Who has been his most expensive signing of the last 10 years? Arshavin was 15 million pounds if I remember correctly, and the little Russian funded part of that transfer fee himself! Has there been a more expensive purchase of which I am not aware? Also, my prediction for the return leg at the Nou Camp if you're interested can be found here: http://soccer-bros.blogspot.com/?zx=a42fee8a73449864
if you look at it in this regard, it is quite amazing what arsene has done. im not talking about the iffhs tosser, but soccerbors makes an excellent point. he has made arsenal this mini barcelona, that can actually take on and in fact defeat on the odd ocasion, the real deal, who have spent a hell of a lot more than mr wenger over the past 13 years (in net transfer dealings, obviously arsene has made a shitload in shrewd transfers, discovering megastars for peanuts and selling them on for fortunes, hence giving him better purchasing ability than most rich clubs, let alone self sustained ones like arsenal). ok he has not won jack for 5 years, but he has shown he can win with them, and get to cl and uefa finals, and they play one of the purest games around, purer, imo , than even barca themselves, becuas they dont rely on cheating to the same extent. (both play pure attack, but barca know how poor they are off the ball, so do whatver it takes to win back the possesion or break the play asap. tragically the referees in spain have worn barca colours for many years now and allow this, and since the unicef thing uefa have followed suit. arsenal play pure attack but have to earn the ball back, not cheat to get it cheap, so this, imo, puts them one ahead on the idea of pure football and respect of the game.) add to the arsene appraisal that he has not only run them on a shoestring, been regularly outspent by many sides in his own league but always go the the cl slots, but also built this fooking great stadium that gets the highest matchday revenue in the world (not accesible yet as the debts have to be paid), and this has not casue so much as a murmur in his quality of football. another miracle. and before you say this is why he hasnt won lately, this i think is spurious given the very unnatural changes theat the epl has been going through with this mega rich foreign investment sice 2003-4 season, from united to chelsea, sunderland, spurs, city twice, newcastle, liverpool twice now, portsmouth etc etc, which i think is more a reason why arsenal havent won the league than the hampering of debts from the emirates. especially given that the quality of football in the arsenal side has improved year on year despite the lack of trophies yours, a united fan.
