NSR: "If you can't join them, beat them...literally."

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  1. SoccerMIGermany

    SoccerMIGermany Member+

    Feb 9, 2007
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    Sons of Anarchy tonight. Been watching for a while. Also a surprisingly well written and well acted show.
     
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  2. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
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    RIP Steve Jobs. :(
     
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    Aug 18, 2006
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    Word. I think Apple has made many useful things. His death like his products was ahead of it's time....
     
  4. eissman

    eissman Member+

    Feb 5, 2004
    Illinois
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    Well said Squid.

    When I watch Tron I think of Steven Jobs.

    That sounded dirty. Wasn't meant to be.
     
  5. deleted

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    Aug 18, 2006
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    I think I should watch Tron too.



    (Meant in a non-dirty way, of course)
     
  6. Equilibrium

    Equilibrium Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
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    His products along with being ahead of his time are also the most overpriced and rip offs off their time as well.

    Either way RIP to him.
     
  7. cwcoach18

    cwcoach18 Member+

    Apr 1, 2009
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    You pay for quality. By the time you have to replace one of his products you have gone through 3 of the others so you end up coming out on top if you don't by into the hype machine and feel like you have to upgrade your phone/laptop/ipod/ipad every time the newest version comes out.

    I feel that I have come out on top $$$$wise with the Apple products I have purchased. I just take care of them and hold on to them for a while.
     
  8. Equilibrium

    Equilibrium Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
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    I have 2 expensive Apple products, but I feel the sheep like quality selling they go for which reels in so many is irritating along with some disgusting customer service regarding warranties have put me off.

    In my line of work, I have to have a macbook/Mac so I have a great piece of hardware however the money extra that you pay for is not worth. Imo Macs in particular have a great simplistic feature and that they do not get as many viruses, otherwise they are twice (literally) the amount of money you could get for a laptop. The Apple iPhone fiasco itself also is the best example of money whoring I've ever seen, though they deserve their props for getting people to get a new one every single time.
     
  9. terrypk1

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    Jan 13, 2008
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    because by the time the new one comes out, your old one would have being dying one way or the other (battery, hard drive damange, softwall conflicts...) LOL
    They timed it well.
    To say apple is quality is nonesense. Their ipod breaks all the time and never last more than 2 years without the batteries dying first. Their macbook has less problems than windows because less than 1% of the virus that's in circulation on a daily basis is mac oriented. Their programing has just as many flaws as windows.
    Lastly, I want you to think of all the workers who actually have DIED on the production line of apple products to provide you with affordable products. (Till now, there are about 20 people who have died on the production line by working days and night. and many developed urinary track problems as they have to hold their pee to continue working on the production line)
     
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  10. cwcoach18

    cwcoach18 Member+

    Apr 1, 2009
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    I guess I have been extremely lucky. I have owned 2 ipods in 10 years. No issues. I got the second not because my other one was dying but because it was time to upgrade.

    Yes there are flaws as far as programming goes. But that is inherent to programming mostly and because it is produced for mass consumption. What is however miles better is the user friendliness of mac products over windows. Imo ipods are not overpriced. that is less of an investment anyhow and really a consumable good. A good walkman and a good discman cost abou the same in the old days and broke down just as much. Just happens to stuff you carry around all the time. there are dropped, sat on, spilled on, etc...

    As far as PC's and laptops, mine used to slow down much faster, battery would have to be replaced, and HD failures would occur frequently. Not so much with Mac's. And that had nothing to do with viruses since I was always cautious and had the best protection money could buy. On scan I maybe got rid of a handful viruses in over 10 years. I still went through 1 computer every 2 years. So it ended up being the same or more money. Plus operating systems are much more expensive on PC's or to upgrade.
     
  11. ForeverRed

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    Aug 18, 2005
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    Overpriced? Yes? Quality Products? You bet. Apple and Steve Jobs set the standard. Everyone else followed.
     
  12. Duncan Idaho

    Duncan Idaho Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Germany
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    Not that big of a fan of Apple even though I have 2 iPods (touch and nano). While I think their products are good, they certainly are not always top-notch and the best technology available, which is ok as long as the product fulfills a need that others cant compete with (had 3 non apple mp3 players before and I was not really amused by them). However in terms of mobile phone, or laptop/PC I never saw Apple worthwile to buy over others that offer comparable or even better tech for my purposes to a better pricepoint
     
  13. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
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    Steve Jobs was a ego-maniacal asshole. Not a fan of him or his products, but it is a shame for his friends and family that he died at such a young age.
     
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  14. Equilibrium

    Equilibrium Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
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    Perfectly put
     
  15. Duncan Idaho

    Duncan Idaho Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
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    "Genie und Wahnsinn liegen nah beieinander" as we say it in Germany


    different topic: I can totally recommend the newest Deus Ex. Worthy successor to the classic that came out years ago. I'm already 29 hours in and haven't killed a single person (except for the 2 boss fights so far, the only thing were you don't have a choice)
     
  16. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
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    I am really fighting the urge to buy this before it is on a steam sale. I hope I can because I am sure it will be a great deal during the Christmas steam sale.
     
  17. Duncan Idaho

    Duncan Idaho Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
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    Can understand that as I couldn't resist any longer and I was bored anyway. But in the end 25€ were a good deal for a Deus Ex HR Steamkey.
     
  18. Bazi

    Bazi Member+

    Jan 15, 2009
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    I played Deus Ex: Human Revelations a few weeks ago and I enjoyed the smartest and most interesting story a computer game displayed in many years. This game definitely had Game of the Year in it but multi platform development (look at witcher 2 how much more a PC can do nowadays) and more importantly the banal last level in combination with the for me unsatisfying ending spoiled the experience a bit. And god damn it you developers I wanted a "chat" with the girl after I saved her. You morons! :D
     
  19. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
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    Its still $50(38€) for the Steamkey here so I think I can still wait. I've got Skyrim coming soon and I still haven't finished Fallout:NV so I can hopefully keep myself busy until December.
     
  20. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
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    Multi-platform development is a necessary evil these days. At least it wasn't developed for console and then ported. In a perfect world every game would be developed for the PC first. :)
     
  21. Duncan Idaho

    Duncan Idaho Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
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    Wouldn't say that. Good developers can do multiplat without sacrificing either platform. But more often than not devs do / have to do a a crappy port and shoehorn a title for a platform that it wasn't even designed for in the first place. Other times the port just gets outsourced to earn some quick bucks to a smaller dev that has to learn the code first. Exclusiveness certainly does not save a title from stupid design decisions. The already mentioned Witcher 2 illustrates this. Combat still sucks and is hugely based on luck, potions that you have to drink before you know which enemy you face, no storage for all the loot and crafting stuff (they had to patch one in later on)
     
  22. SoccerMIGermany

    SoccerMIGermany Member+

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    Platform actually seems a pretty minor factor to me where games are concerned. Some of the best games I have played from the past still hold up as great games. Many multi-plat games are awesome. Lots of platform-exclusive games suck. I've played as many bad games that were designed as vehicles for superior graphics or AI as I have games that were spoiled by bad ports or graphic glitches.When platform becomes an issue it's usually something like the CoD:MW port for the Wii where the hardware just could not run the game and the controller was not suited to navigating the game environment.

    If the game sucks even the best platform in the world can't save it.

    Other thing in favor of multi-platform...I can't effectively teach a class that uses a AAA videogame title as a text unless it is multi-platform. Students are too spread out across platforms to give them access otherwise.
     
  23. jadger

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    Apr 12, 2006
    Kanada
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    Germany
    hey DI, I think I remember seeing someone using your username playing Red Orchestra a long time ago, have u played Red Orchestra 2? talk about disappointment. worst sequel ever!!!
     
  24. Duncan Idaho

    Duncan Idaho Member+

    Aug 19, 2005
    Germany
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    FC Bayern München
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    Germany
    Yeah, but that wasn't me. You can see me occassionally play Team Fortress 2
     
  25. Equilibrium

    Equilibrium Member+

    Sep 21, 2007
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    Human Revolution seems like a game that I will buy, most definitely. I am a bit out of cash until January, so I will likely be able to afford only one game (new) until Christmas. :(

    I personally cannot wait for Uncharted 3, the previous felt like you were playing a movie, or were in a movie. :S And then after that it's Human Revolution, FIFA 12, & Dark Souls in no specific. I wasn't planning on getting F12 but I've heard good things about it, so I am changing my mind.
     

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