If I Hear the Word "Moneyball" One More F'n Time... : Summer Transfer Thread II

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  1. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
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    That may be the better description as opposed to my earlier comparison to Riera.
     
  2. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

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    That would make me very happy.
     
  3. newterp

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    Jun 6, 2007
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    except that he's supposed to be pretty fast/quick compared to Maxi who - while not slow - is not noted as a quick player.
     
  4. AndSomeAreAngels

    Jun 7, 2003
    Brokelyn
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    I feel like I've heard the opposite - that Ramirez is not a very fast player. I've never seen him play so I have no idea but that's what I've read.
     
  5. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
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    FC Bayern München
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    Germany
    Well you guys can watch him at the Olympics this summer if you haven't seen him play already.

    He's going to have a great time against GB. :D
     
  6. LFChile

    LFChile Member

    Aug 15, 2011
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    That's is exactly what i have heared as well. He doesn't seem to be worth the amount that are apearing on the papers. He may be technicaly gifted, but that is just not enough in the EPL, and more so if Rodgers wants to use him as a winger.

    On the other hand, i would be very happy if we can somehow sign Sturidge.
     
  7. Chimaera

    Chimaera Member

    Mar 26, 2009
    La Plata, Maryland
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    Liverpool FC
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    I don't believe at all that he's not fast enough. He's technical enough to where he can fit in. Maybe he doesn't have the straight line burst of some of your top wingers, but I think he's easily quick enough with the ball to handle it.
     
  8. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
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    He's not a traditional winger, thats not what we should be aiming for anyways.
     
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  9. blanconi

    blanconi Member+

    Aug 25, 2008
    What about Walcott? What do you guys think of him as a potential target for the wings?
     
  10. idreamofpikas

    idreamofpikas Member+

    May 22, 2009
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    I think he's a great player and one of the reasons why RVP was so productive last season but Arsenal dont want to offer him more than 80k and I dont think we will either.
     
  11. ForeverRed

    ForeverRed Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    NYC
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    No thanks. He's quick but more often than not looks like he doesn't think before he does something.
     
  12. never walk alone TPK

    Sep 27, 2004
    nairobi, kenya
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    Kenya
    A faster Downing?
     
  13. imasyko

    imasyko Member+

    May 16, 2002
    Spring City, PA
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  14. Wingtips1

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    May 3, 2004
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    Are Silva or Mata very athletic? No. Are they playing on the wings in England where people thought they did in Spain? No. Do both provide a creative fulcrum across the entire attacking third of the pitch? Yes. These players are exactly what Ramirez can become for us. And I honestly think he is of greater potential, as well as ability, than Mata. So paying 16m for him when Chelsea paid 23m is not bad business.
     
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  15. Wingtips1

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    And in other news, Suarez and Coates have been called up to the olympic squad. Better have a third striker in soon.
     
  16. Red Bird

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    Sep 30, 2003
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  17. blanconi

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    Aug 25, 2008
    SkySports saying that we're in for Granero. If my memory serves me well, he usually comes on for ozil at Madrid, no? Or is it khedira?
     
  18. Wingtips1

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    We've agreed the fee for Ramirez according to several sources and papers.
    Rodgers was on television today and announced we should have one new signing by the end of this week.
    Milan are going to try signing Carroll on loan. Not going to happen.

    We've failed in a bid for Esteban Granero. Underwhelmed by this news, not sure he's in a position that is a pressing issue. However, if we were to try tempting away Sahin, I'd be ok with that...

    Chelsea had a bid for Schurrle, who has also been linked to us, rejected. It is believed to have been 20m euros.

    Giampolo Pazzini is leaving Inter according to reports. We've been mentioned in the papers. Not terribly impressed by this.
     
  19. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
    North Potomac, MD
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    "I won't be bringing in many players - not loads of money to spend. 3 or 4 tweaks to help us achieve what we want, to be competitive in every game"

    as I suspected - he's been given a directive from the owners that he has a lot of quality in their minds in the squad already so work with it - and maybe later we'll give you more depending on how you are doing.
     
  20. CHSsoccer08

    CHSsoccer08 Member

    Apr 12, 2002
    Washington DC
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    How many players bought and how much money spent would satisfy you?
     
  21. ryered

    ryered Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    Hill Country
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    Liverpool FC
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    --other--
    Could be bargaining talk for the market too.
     
  22. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

    Mar 18, 2007
    SoCal
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    Liverpool FC
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    sure it could be, but specifically what would lead you to think that?
     
  23. OhYouBeauty

    OhYouBeauty Member

    Aug 16, 2007
    Charlotte, NC
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    Well I personally think that's fair.
     
  24. newterp

    newterp Moderator
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    Jun 6, 2007
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    not sure really. It's not that clear cut. We have some glaring holes to fill, and I don't have a sense as to how much it will cost to fill those areas. I'm just glad to get some confirmation of the transfer plan instead of hoping that we get X, Y and Z for a 50M spend.
     
  25. ryered

    ryered Member+

    Jan 15, 2007
    Hill Country
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    Liverpool FC
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    --other--
    Nothing whatsoever. Pure speculation at this point.
     

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