Honduras Vs. Mexico in Mexico

Discussion in 'Central America' started by rceveda, Jun 11, 2008.

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  1. rceveda

    rceveda New Member

    Mar 7, 2008
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    CD Olimpia
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    one more thing, wouldn't be the other way around???
     
  2. El Sapito

    El Sapito New Member

    Jun 24, 2008
    Arizona
    Los que dicen que Mexico y Honduras estan en el mismo nivel tienen la misma mentalidad de los que dicen que E.U. no esta por encima de Mexico. EU si esta por encima de Mexico, aunque nos duela como mexicanos admitirlo, y Honduras no esta al mismo nivel de Mexico.

    Como dicen en ingles, "Form is temporary, Class is permanent." Honduras no es ni tan grande como unos creen ni tan malos como otrs creen, aunque si reconozco que esta mejorando y tiene buenos jugadores, una seleccion no triunfa por individualismos... si no creen preguntenle a Cristano Ronaldo y Portugal. Suazo es un muy buen jugador, al igual que Palacios y el otro que juega en Wigan tambien. Pero de nuevo, una seleccion no triunfa con individualismos.

    Lamentablemente Mexico esta en un momento pesimo, gracias al Penta-Fracasos TarHugo Sanchez. Increible que se vino a la nada lo que habia dejado Lavolpe, que aunque no era muy popular, dejo un CONJUNTO de jugadores que jugaban en equipo cuando importaba. Vean la Confederaciones del 2005, la Copa Oro, la America. Salvo los partidos vs Brasil, como equipo los jugadores de Mexico eran un grupo que se entendia a la perfeccion y le jugaban al que le pusieran. A Lavolpe lo mato su favoritismo, pero a ese equipo Argentina no lo goleaba.

    De nuevo, Honduras tiene mucho por hacer para llegarle al nivel de Mexico. No niego que Honduras pase por buen momento, pero en el futbol no se puede sobrevivir con "buenos momentos". Tienen una buena base, muchos jugadores que ya empiezan a tocar las puertas a las ligas mas importantes del mundo, y veo muy cercano el pasar al ser el #3 de CONCACAF indiscutiblemente. Pero ahorita, aun no es asi. Hasta que tengan mas de una participacion en Copa del Mundo, hasta que lleguen a por lo menos a la final de la Copa de Oro, y siempre lleguen al hexagonal de CONCACAF... en ese momento se va a empezar a notar que tanto ha crecido Honduras.

    Los partidos en Hon y Mex van a estar muy cerrados, eso lo aseguro. Me reservo los resultados porque no tiene sentido ponerlo. Lo que si se es que Mexico va a calificar primero del grupo, y yo espero que Honduras pase como 2do. Calificaremos 1ero porque Sven unira el equipo, como Lavolpe lo hizo en su momento, y sacara a los que ya sobran en la seleccion. Le deseo mucha suerte a Honduras y espero volver a vernos en el Hexagonal.
     
  3. R9Kevinr9

    R9Kevinr9 Member+

    Feb 2, 2007
    ATX
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    El Salvador
    A lot of the stuff you guys say, is what we say in ES too. Caliche shizz.
     
  4. Naui_Ocelotl

    Naui_Ocelotl Member

    Apr 3, 2008
    I wouldn't take anything that fat piece of crap says seriously, he's completely ignorant when it comes to football, especially if it's not from México. He just spews exaggerated bullshit to cause controversy.

    About the match, I think both will be hard fought battles and IMO México and Honduras should advance to the final round.
     
  5. Moises

    Moises Member

    Feb 8, 2007
    miami
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    look at all the rumors...
     
  6. Moises

    Moises Member

    Feb 8, 2007
    miami
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    i think those gringos (canada) are going to surpass you...
     
  7. Moises

    Moises Member

    Feb 8, 2007
    miami
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    its funny but the best usa players are immigrants roots, and who cares if USA is always that best in the concacaf? they barely have the support and passionate fans like mexico, honduras, costa rica, panama, guatemala.
     
  8. hellsknight

    hellsknight New Member

    Mar 28, 2005
    Garland, Texas, USA
    All the USA players have immigrant roots.
     
  9. rceveda

    rceveda New Member

    Mar 7, 2008
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    CD Olimpia
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    The US is an immigrant nation, I don't care if they are white... they still are immigrants
     
  10. AZTECA

    AZTECA New Member

    Jun 24, 2007
    San Francisco
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Exactly, everyone in the U.S. are immigrants, execpt for the Native Americans obviously.
     
  11. AZTECA

    AZTECA New Member

    Jun 24, 2007
    San Francisco
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Of course that they are all rumors it shows that european clubs are finally looking into our talent pool, and now Mexican clubs are becoming less money grubbing and are giving up players easier than before.
     
  12. jcvf90

    jcvf90 Member

    Dec 12, 2006
    Boca Raton, FL
    just mexico city including suburbs has a larger population than all honduras and we have just as many player in europe.
    talent in honduras > TAlent in mexico
    Talent development in honduras < Talent development in mexico
     
  13. Naui_Ocelotl

    Naui_Ocelotl Member

    Apr 3, 2008
    You're joking right?
     
  14. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    how many of your super duper awesome hondurans abroad actually won a championship abroad, apart from Suazo?


    ....I will be waiting
     
  15. rceveda

    rceveda New Member

    Mar 7, 2008
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    CD Olimpia
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    No... ya'll just have a bunch of kiddie benchwarmers. Ya'll's best always come from the domestic league
     
  16. Naui_Ocelotl

    Naui_Ocelotl Member

    Apr 3, 2008
    Yeah our domestic players are overlooked by some. Our league is at least 3rd best in the America's behind the Brasilian and Argentine leagues. We've got one of the best GK's in the World in Guillermo Ochoa also Fernando Arce, Jaime Correa, Jonny Magallón are some of our top players who play domestically.

    I can tell you don't follow our Mexicans abroad because all of them play regularly with the exception of Gio when he was at Barça, although he did score a hattrick in his last game at Barcelona.
     
  17. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    I guess it's easier to talk out of one's ass than to actually do some research, let alone make comments that are quite obviously biased. I know the central-americans hate Mexico for whatever reason but we have proven time and time again what we can do in CONCACAF and outside our region as well.

    The US national team is the only team that is close to matching Mexico's record for consecutive WC appearences and that's something to brag about I suppose.

    I think Honduras and Canada can take points off Mexico, it's possible, but I think that win in Copa Oro last year really went to your head. Rafa should be in good shape for the August 20th game and we will have our best players available as I'm sure you guys will also, err sorry, I meant "ya'll".

    Let the games be played and see what happens.
     
  18. rceveda

    rceveda New Member

    Mar 7, 2008
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    CD Olimpia
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Yeah, there we go buddy with the victorialism... again,"I think Honduras and Canada can take points off Mexico"... one of us will. if not why make US play in the Azteca, Up a mile high and with a hell of a lot of pollution so that you can have the biggest advantage. hey tell Cuau that caba-nightmare is gonna play
     
  19. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    umm I don't understand, you claimed you were going to come to Azteca and get 3 points while also beating us @ home in SPS, but you get offended because I said that it is totally plausible for Canada and Honduras to get points off Mexico at home or Azteca?!?!?!! That's a compliment, during this cycle you can do what you have never done before, what only one country in our region has managed to do.

    Not all home games will be played at Azteca and they never really are but once again, it's easier to talk out of one's ass than to do some real research and form a complete arguement.
     
  20. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    This is probably going to be Mexico's line-up for the Honduras game at Azteca on August 20th.

    Ochoa/Sanchez
    Rojas.Galindo.Rafa.Salcido
    Arce.Pardo.Torrado.Guardado
    Nery.Vela

    I'd like to see who you guys have starting or playing for Honduras and maybe a comparison of players by position.

    btw. I'm still waiting for an answer to my first question. How many Hondurans abroad have actually won a championship, other than Suazo? and no, the ones in Belize, Nicaragua, and Guatemala don't count.
     
  21. pavonYsuazo

    pavonYsuazo New Member

    Jun 30, 2007
    New Orleans, LA
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    :rolleyes:most mexicans cant seem to accurately identify the weaknesses in their team....on the other hand i can say that the thing that can impede honduras' road to the world cup would be inconsistency and immaturity in the back...the mexico on this forum seemed to leave out the possibility of them not making it to the world cup and it sounds pretty arrogant....a good argument includes a counter so until i read one reason why mexico might lose to honduras or not qualify for the world cup...until then i will take each mexican comment with a grain of salt....
     
  22. ...In my defense

    Feb 11, 2006
    no confundas la mierda con la pomada.

    reading comprehension is lacking in you forums. seriously.

    Read my posts again and then get back to me. There is a reason why Mexico and the US are considered favorites in our region and that's not going to change until Honduras makes some noise at the international level. It seems like you're the ones who are over-estimating your team a bit much.

    I'm well aware, as you are, of Mexico's weaknesses and that includes playing against strong, physical, and technically gifted sides like Honduras and Canada, therefore, and I will repeat this again, I would not be at all surprised if both teams take points off Mexico at home or away.

    Then again, even though the team is in transition and hasn't been playing to its level for a number of reasons, I'm still fairly confident we will qualify to the Hex and then to the WC.

    you can have your :rolleyes: back and please, answer my question, how many Hondurans abroad have made an imediate impact, like Osorio and Pardo at Stuttgart, with a Champions League caliber team?
     
  23. rceveda

    rceveda New Member

    Mar 7, 2008
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    CD Olimpia
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    No Mr.defense-man you have got me wrong. why make us play in the Azteca? I understand you trying to pull back on the subject of how different we are and blah,blah,blah... but are you really listening to yourself... implying how invinsible ya'll are at home.
     
  24. rceveda

    rceveda New Member

    Mar 7, 2008
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    CD Olimpia
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Mr. defense-man, Suazo is the only one that has been in a team that even has a chance. it does not matter in what team they are but what league.

    ps. just out of curiosity... now that we are talking 'bout Suazo. how many mexicans have played in Italy?
     
  25. rceveda

    rceveda New Member

    Mar 7, 2008
    Durham, NC
    Club:
    CD Olimpia
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Mexico
    vs.

    Suazo---Pavon

    De Leon------------------M. Suazo

    Guevara---Palacios

    Figueroa---Cabllero---Thomas---Alvarez

    ---Valladares---

    that's my dream team... specially designed for Mexico.
     

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