Holden out for a quick recovery: Stu at Bolton [R]

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Me too. Evans just went on the sht list w/ De Jong. In fact, I remember him doing the same karate chest kick once that De Jong did also.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSPG99Hx_iM"]YouTube - Johny Evans tackle on Stuart Holden[/ame]

Yep, he left Drogba convulsing on the field. Well, let's separate the convulsing part out. It was still a De Jong.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlVOlYKwhHo"]YouTube - evans vs drogba[/ame]

 

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********.

I hope it's better than it looked.

 

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stuholden Stuart Holden
Thanks for all the messages of support, will keep everyone updated when I find out the extent of injury. #coyw

 

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Coyle says:

[On the red card] My concern is about the player (Stuart Holden). He's on the way to hospital with his knee opened by a cut. I'm hoping it's no more than that. I've not seen the tackle again but it looked like to players committed to get the ball. It was a thrilling game and my players gave everything they could. We're disappointed we've lost and that shows how far we've come. There are many positives and we'll look to take the next step to improve further."

 

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It was a 50/50 challenge with Holden coming out on the bad end of things. You talk about lunging in what was Holden doing? They both lunged in and if Holden doesn't get injured Evans gets a yellow and they get on with the game but the ref sees Holden in pain and the blood on his knee and reacts.

 

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Have you seen the video? Holden tries to hook it, Evans goes in with your classic leg breaker.

 

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http://watchsocceronline.blogspot.com/2011/03/johnny-evans-red-card-tackle-on-stuart.html

 

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Classic leg breaker? Now that's stretching. They both go into a 50/50 tackle looking to win the ball and the only reason Holden doesn't look guilty is because he comes in from an angle not head on like Evans so he can't get stuck in where Evans came in head on into the challenge.

I guess everyone left out the part where Evans got the ball and only got Stu's knee cause the ball bounced to.

 

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It does matter if you get the ball, it does matter if it's 50/50. Owen Coyle himself said he saw nothing in it. I mean I don't know if it can get more obvious then that.

So you're also ignoring the fact Stu himself goes into a lot of challenges with studs up?

 

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Indeed. One is a legit attempt to control the ball and win possession, the other is a desperate lunge that not only offers no hope of controlling the ball, but carries with it the danger of seriously injuring someone.

 

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Holden's studs are up there. Why wasn't he sent off? This studs up=your off argument is about as flawed as they come.

 

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And do you think Evans meant to slam into his leg? It was a 50/50 challenge where neither player was at fault with an unfortunate outcome that the ref felt he needed to react to.

It doesn't matter what Holden was trying to do with his leg his studs were still up which according to you is why Evans tackle was bad.

If anything your picture just proves what I've been saying. Both of their tackles are nearly identical yet Holden comes out with a knock and Evans is the new De Jong.

 

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It doesn't matter if he didn't mean to slam into Holden. He did. Anytime someone's timing is off and they f' up on a challenge, it's a cardable offense. Quit making excuses. Any quality defender that far from goal would make better decisions than Evans did.

 

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Neither player at fault? Dude, give it up. It was a terrible challenge. Evans went in with a straight leg straight into Holden and through/ over the ball. He was clearly reckless. Evans is a hack and a classless individual. He may have gotten those rape charges dropped, but he ain't getting out of this without a suspension.

 

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Correction Holden didn't show the studs, it was only the other guy. Also it was an awfull pass from the Korean player which force Stuart to go for the challenge ball.

 

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I guess you know more than Fergie:

""The referee has seen the player had a bad injury," observed Ferguson, who watched the contest from the directors' box as he began a five-match touchline ban.

"Both players went for the same ball, with their feet raised, and Jonny caught the lad.

"Once you raise your feet you are putting yourself in a dangerous area. It was unfortunate but we cannot complain."

Read more: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/new...-to-hospital-article715505.html#ixzz1H4wrB554

 

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Sky says he was taken to a hospital but there's no other news yet.

Bolton is hoping it's just a gash with no knee/ligament damage.

 

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FSC reported he needed 26 stitches for the gash

 

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The problem IMO is where did Evans think his studs up straight ahead leg was going to end up? I mean, he's dives head on with his studs pointing at the ball and player, that's a ********ing dirty play because it would be almost impossible for him not to hurt Stu. ( I would surmise that he did this to protect himself at the expense of Stu) Either way, he's taking Stu out whether he gets the ball or not.

Stu leaves his feet but doesn't go studs up, in fact he makes sure not to go directly at the player with his studs. Fergie is just sticking up for his player but I just lost a lot of respect for him.