History Book Recommendations

Discussion in 'History' started by KevTheGooner, Sep 29, 2005.

  1. Smiley321

    Smiley321 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Concord, Ca
    You probably know of CSICOP, they take great glee in dealing with stuff like this. They publish a magazine, the Skeptical Inquirer, one of my favorites. The LA Skeptics also publish a magazine, called The Skeptic. Here's their homepage
    http://www.skeptic.com/index.html

    They feign consternation over all of this silly stuff, but actually they can't get enough of it. And there's no shortage, the crackpots are always a few steps ahead.

    That's one reason why I don't get upset over prayer in schools and such. If religion didn't have people doing those relatively harmless things, they'd be trampling the everglades looking for the skunk ape. Or taking Scientology classes.
     
  2. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Fatal Shore Robert Hughes. The settling of the "land of sunshine and sharks".
     
  3. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes
    Oh, God, the Velikovsky nuts are freaking GRATING....

    A guy I heard on Coast to Coast AM was a "student" of Velikovsky. He also postulated that comets GAIN mass, and about 20 other weird claims that get smacked down.

    If you want to see some quality debunking, go to www.badastronomy.com

    He gets the Planet X'ers, the Cydonia wingnuts, and all the other pseudo-scientists and makes them look incredibly bad.
     
  4. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes
    Does anyone else have the sneaking suspicion that Rick is planning to set up his own facist nation in Africa someday? ;)
     
  5. Rick B

    Rick B Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    Harare, Zimbabwe
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Zimbabwe

    What do you mean planning.........Im half way there in cahoots with Robert Mugabe now........ :D My awful secret is out!!!!!
     
  6. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes
    i knew you and Mugabe had something going on!!! ;)
     
  7. Rick B

    Rick B Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    Harare, Zimbabwe
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Zimbabwe

    It was the only way he let me keep my house in Harare, had to sell my soul to the devil.....but I get to live in my utopia so all is well............ :rolleyes: ;)
     
  8. Coach_McGuirk

    Coach_McGuirk New Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Between the Pipes
    Don't let images of Roarke's Drift keep you up at night.... ;)
     
  9. Rick B

    Rick B Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    Harare, Zimbabwe
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Zimbabwe
    In my best Caine voice......

    "Don't throw bloody spears at me".

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  10. Rick B

    Rick B Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    Harare, Zimbabwe
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Zimbabwe
    Now that is a great piece of history. It's a great place to visit, I went in 1999, bit of a trek from Jo'burg but well worth it.

    Summery of what happened at Rorkes Drift

    Or alternativly see the super film called Zulu with Michael Caine in it.
     
  11. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

    CanPL
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    YEG-->YYJ-->YWG-->YYB
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Funny that you mention it, anybody read Ian Smith's biography The Great Betrayal? I can't seem to find a copy anywhere and it's a shame since it's a good read.

    Looking at a couple of more books to read.

    Margaret Macmillan's Paris 1919: Six Months That Changed the World
    Anne Applebaum's Gulag: A History
     
  12. Rick B

    Rick B Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    Harare, Zimbabwe
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Zimbabwe
    Fantastic book. It gives a real account of how the Rhodiesians were betrayed by the West in those years. From such a promising country with the best economy in Africa to what there is now. Both white and black Zimbabwe long for the return of Ian Smith. Although controversial the structure he gave to Zim is still there today and will remain once Mugable goes.

    You can buy it here
     
  13. NER_MCFC

    NER_MCFC Member

    May 23, 2001
    Cambridge, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Great Wave: Price Revolutions and the Rhythm of History by David Hackett Fischer.
    I am not particularly well positioned to judge the economic historical research that is the foundation of this book, but I found it inventive, persuasively argued and entertaining. It's essentially a survey of European and world history from the 12th century looking at patterns of prices and correlating them trends in political and social organization.
     
  14. DoyleG

    DoyleG Member+

    CanPL
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    YEG-->YYJ-->YWG-->YYB
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Two books about East Germany
    STASI: The Untold Story Of The East German Secret Police by John O. Koehler.
    STASILAND: True Stories From Behind The Berlin Wall

    and The Balkans Since 1945 By RJ Crampton.
     
  15. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fantastic book, if a slightly tedious read. Which reminds me I need to pick up the later one by Diamond as well.
     
  16. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Meh; its not that good.
     
  17. DynamoKiev_USA

    DynamoKiev_USA New Member

    Jul 6, 2003
    Silver Spring, MD
    He drags on a few interesting points far too long IMHO. Collapse and Third Chimpanzee are superior.
     
  18. KevTheGooner

    KevTheGooner Help that poor man!

    Dec 10, 1999
    THOF
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Andorra
    Speaking of old world v. new world history, anyone ever read The Conquest of New Spain? By DelCastillo...a conquistador. Amazing account of Cortez' campaign against the Mexhica (Aztecs). Much of it is actually hard to believe! Remarkable!
     
  19. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Collapse is the one I was referring to. It was really disappointing.
     
  20. DynamoKiev_USA

    DynamoKiev_USA New Member

    Jul 6, 2003
    Silver Spring, MD

    Why? I liked it, but of course I listened to the abridged version on CD, rather than reading the 900 page monstrocity in print. I was disappointed that it did not include any of the more complex societies in its analyses, but it was very interesting to learn about the Greenlanders, Easter Islanders, and others.
     
  21. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just finished Pirate Coast, a very readable book about the war between the USA & Tripoli just after 1800. It ends up being a biography of William Eaton.

    I'm about 1/2 way through 1491, and will probably pick up Guns, Germs and Steel soon enough. Right after I get through Simon Winchester's book on the San Francisco Earthquake. I love Winchester and would recommend any of his other books. (Including Karl's fave, The Professor and the Madman).

    My all-time favorite history book is Up and Down California in 1860-1864, The Diary of William Brewer (#2 guy on the Whitney canvass).
     
  22. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I recently read "The First Crusade" by Thomas Asbridge. Very interesting read on a subject that's not exactly my strength as far as history is concerned.
     
  23. KevTheGooner

    KevTheGooner Help that poor man!

    Dec 10, 1999
    THOF
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Andorra

    Did you read "A Distant Mirror" Yoss? By Tuchman? Not the first crusade but the second and third, I believe?
     
  24. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not a Tuchman fan based on this book. It goes way overboard to push her thesis that the A-bomb was psychologically the same as the Black Death. Then she decided to write her book as a biography - but drops obvious hints that the main character dies young of the plague throughout the book. [Note this isn't a spoiler since the hints start at ~page 20 and anyone with half a brain will figure it out.]

    I know she was really popular and sold a lot of books, but it's just not my cup of tea or a history book on my "recommended" list
     
  25. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No, but I have heard of it.....as well as DoctorD's criticism's of it.
     

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