He's So Wondo! The continuing chronicle of Chris Wondolowski's career

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by TyffaneeSue, Sep 22, 2011.

  1. blurryblue

    blurryblue Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    I think the problem is you are thinking about "clutch" as something along a continuum that can be definitively measured with a virtual ruler. I agree that it cannot. Data can be corroborative but ultimately the assessment must come from the totality of the performance. The only way to assess it is to actually observe the game, and yes, this will necessarily involve plenty of subjectivity. By definition that means no two observers will agree exactly on every "clutch" player or "choker".
     
  2. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    If we take the definition of "clutch" to its core, it would be someone who performs better when the "pressure is on" or "when it really matters" than they would normally perform. If their clutch performance is "their best" then it implies that they don't do "their best" when the pressure is not on. I guess that is not slacking necessarily. They could be trying as hard as they can at all times, but somehow, outside of their own direct control, they do better when the pressure is on.

    But then we're back to the same problem. The player may play great by one's subjective measurements, but those measurements are too few and far between anyway. A subjective evaluation is in the end still a "measurement" and as such is subject to the nature of statistical significance, etc. You're saying it can't be measured objectively. I'm saying it can't be measured period because there is generally not enough information.
     
  3. blurryblue

    blurryblue Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    I was illuminating why the use of a rigid statistical approach to define "clutch" is a fool's errand, not the assessment itself. The "analytical tool" in this case is simply observation of performance, which involves time and a mental comparative, not a calculator. "Clutch" and "choker" will be the outliers.
     
  4. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
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    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  5. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
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  6. ant0n

    ant0n Member+

    Jun 12, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    Wondo in an important tie once again failed to live up to his DP status. Missed 2 chances in the first leg vs Toluca and choked in the PK shootout when the team needed him. Not good enough for a DP.
     
  7. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
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  8. ant0n

    ant0n Member+

    Jun 12, 2007
    San Jose, Ca
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    United States
    But it is true.
     
  9. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
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  10. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
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    United States
    That's cute - he looks so happy, he must eat there a lot (like I do - it's near my gym!)
     
  11. staudio

    staudio Member+

    Mar 7, 2008
    Marin
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    The Chipotle Epicenter perhaps....:laugh:
     
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  12. methodic

    methodic Member

    Jul 24, 2007
    Rockwall, TX.
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    Great. I can already sense the injury bug around the corner when he puts on 10 lbs due to over indulgence. We should see which other restaurants wish to join the party of helping to decimate the fitness of our players.
     
  13. staudio

    staudio Member+

    Mar 7, 2008
    Marin
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
  14. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
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    The Chipotle Epicenter at San José. :thumbsup:

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  15. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
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    Likely Chicago Fire. :eek:

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  16. DotMPP

    DotMPP 'Quakes fan in Stumptown

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    Jun 29, 2004
    SE Portland, OR
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    Go find and watch "Fat Head"... And you could do a lot worse shopping at normal grocery store, following the food pyramid, than eating at Chipotle...
     
  17. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    My buddy and I are very health conscious, and we think Chipotle is pretty good if u stick with the chicken or tofu, the bowl instead of the burrito, black beans, and only take one spoon of brown rice. It is not greasy nor salty. Buddy skips the cheese. Our weight hasn't changed by eating there. Assuming a pro athlete knows how to eat healthy, wondo should not turn into Jonah Hill.
     
  18. fadedtoblack

    fadedtoblack Member+

    Nov 6, 2007
    San Jose
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    Pro soccer players burn thousands of calories a day, and should pretty much be able to eat anything they want. I'm not too worried about it.

    (I'm going to get a 5000 word response from KMVJet, aren't I?).
     
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  19. jetdog9

    jetdog9 Member+

    Nov 14, 2007
    Bay Area, CA
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    The chicken burrito is plenty healthy... if you remember to only eat 1/3 to 1/2 of it at a time. I wonder if Alexi Lalas still gets free Slurpees.

    Really hope Wondo bags 2 goals or has a goal and an assist against the Revs tomorrow...
     
  20. blurryblue

    blurryblue Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    Why the chicken? The barbacoa is way tastier, has about the same calories, less saturated fat and half the cholesterol.
     
  21. blurryblue

    blurryblue Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    The problem isn't during the season ...
     
  22. JazzyJ

    JazzyJ BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 25, 2003
    #1122 JazzyJ, Mar 29, 2014
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    Chipotle seems relatively healthy for fast food, but it's high in sodium. You probably get your day's allowance of sodium in one burrito. I always feel very thirsty after eating there. I'm trying to figure out what to avoid so that it's more manageable.

    http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20620588_17,00.html
     
  23. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    United States
    I think the amount of salt varies by who's cooking. I'm very sensitive to salt and only see a problem at my local Chipotle when some new guy joins the kitchen.

    Barbacoa is beef. Carnitas is pork. Both are red meat. One thanksgiving, I cooked both a roast and a turkey. I saved off the fat from both so that it would gel and I could easily toss it in the garbage. The next day, I was shocked to see that the beef fat was hard as a rock, while the turkey fat was like jello. Imagine that hard white beef fat coating the inside of your arteries.
     
  24. staudio

    staudio Member+

    Mar 7, 2008
    Marin
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At the rate he's going now I don't think Wondo is going to Brazil unless he really picks up the pace and/or has a great game Wednesday with USMNT....He's not burying the shots that we are use to seeing him score on...should had 2 goals last night, missed the PK against Toluca, missed opportunities in first CCL game....

    If he doesn't make it to Brazil, 2 things could happen. He could go into a funk, or he would be so pissed off he would take it out on the other MLS teams.....

    time will tell
     
  25. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    If food is moving, un-metabolized, from your digestive tract directly to your bloodstream, I might suggest you see a gastroenterologist to get that bleeding ulcer checked out. ;)
     

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