Health Care Reform Part III: The Implementation.

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  1. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
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    When did I dump anyone? What funding are you looking to increase exactly? What are your solutions?
     
  2. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    That is basically what your magic plan of building more clinics around the USA came down to a few pages back.


    My plan, I don't know kill off sick people?

     
  3. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I stumbled across this -

    I keep having to quote business practices to Republicans, which is odd. But that is so. Let me tell you people. In business, if this happens and your company is the U.S., you learn humility. Your competitors are beating your ass. The evidence is right there. You don't pound your chest. You copy the winners so that you can stay in business.

    That is how it is. I would be fired so fast if I posted numbers like that and tried to make excuses.
     
  4. Falc

    Falc Member+

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    Really? How did you come up with that theory Darwin?
     
  5. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    The absence of serious, detailed answers on your part leads one to certain conclusions.
     
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  6. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    In business the customers would change provider of the services if they are dissatisfied.

    Is there statistical data that shows American consumers dumping the American product in exchange for the European product in large numbers?
     
  7. Falc

    Falc Member+

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    What, who to tax? Meanwhile many of you throw out single payer with no idea what it entails. How is that going to be paid for.

    I continually read here the whining about how much it is costing us to treat the uninsured at the ER. Redirect those funds in providing a more efficient system is a start. Look at getting rid of waste & fraud in the current system as well. This notion that every new program needs a new tax will drain the economy even more. What fools so many of you are.
     
  8. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Not a realistic option here.
     
  9. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

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    Oh yes the always go to answer.

    Democrats How are you going to pay for new programs?
    Answer: we will just tax the Rich.

    Republicans how are you going to pay for new programs?
    Answer: we will just eliminate fraud and abuse.

    Not very realistic answers for sure.
     
  10. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Actually, the GOP has something there -

    But strangely, I don't hear it calling for more government and less private enterprise.

    Might it be that the GOP is not actually for efficiency, but rather is for anything that makes for lower taxes? That it would be happier with an inefficient private solution than with an efficient government solution that raised taxes?

    Just a thought.
     
  11. crazypete13

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    Until 2003 all health care was covered via taxes (provincial) - the government added a health care premium tax around then - means tested to a limit of $900/annum.
     
  12. crazypete13

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    I miss Chuck Swirsky
     
  13. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I had to google that. Didn't realize he did the Raptors games in the past. He's a Bulls' radio guy now.
     
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  14. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
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    So bailouts of health insurance companies may be next. This is so efficient.
     
  15. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Is this the new TP?
     
  16. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

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  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    I think the liberal answer du jour is a carbon tax and a financial transaction tax.
     
  18. crazypete13

    crazypete13 Moderator
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    Figured it was apropos for the comment.
     
  19. luftmensch

    luftmensch Member+

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    May 4, 2006
    Petaluma
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    I remember Kerry losing.
     
  20. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    Wait...you mean Obama won't win reelection in 2016?!?! Oh the horror.
     
  21. VFish

    VFish Member+

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    How is it a talking point? The law established "risk corridors" that protect insurance companies from big losses in the first three years of the Obamacare exchange rollout. Then the President unexpectedly announces an ill-conceived rollback that almost guarantees insurance companies will lose money without even consulting the insurance industry.

    This stupidity will definitely cost the U.S. tax-payer dearly.
     
  22. Falc

    Falc Member+

    Jul 29, 2006
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    More money that could have been better spent elsewhere. Like maybe actual health care for those who need it.
     
  23. VFish

    VFish Member+

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    So we should be expecting Obama's resignation soon?
     
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  24. dapip

    dapip Member+

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    Iraq?
     
  25. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
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    This is dumber than link dumping.
     

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