Handicapping the 2016 Democratic Presidential Candidates

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Who will be the Democrat 2016 Presidential Nominee?

  1. Hillary Clinton (Former US Senator and Secretary of State)

    38 vote(s)
    48.7%
  2. Joe Biden (US Vice President)

    8 vote(s)
    10.3%
  3. Andrew Cuomo (New York Governor)

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  4. Elizabeth Warren (US Senator)

    5 vote(s)
    6.4%
  5. Martin O'Malley (Maryland Governor)

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  6. Cory Booker (Newark Mayor)

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  7. Howard Dean (Former Vermont Governor)

    3 vote(s)
    3.8%
  8. Rahm Emanuel (Chicago Mayor)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Kirsten Gillibrand (US Senator)

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  10. Mark Warner (US Senator)

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  11. Other (Please specify)

    5 vote(s)
    6.4%
  12. Bernie Sanders (Independent US Senator)

    14 vote(s)
    17.9%
  1. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Had to look up BAMF.

    Joe is what Joe is. He's comic relief, a good sport, and a party loyalist. But not Presidential.
     
  2. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
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    --other--
    If Biden decides to run (I'm not sure he won't), he will give Hillary a run for her money, and might win. A lot of the voters who now plan to hold their noses and vote Hil might defect to the Biden camp.
     
  3. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Side question: What does Obama do if Hilary and Biden both run? I assume that if only one of those two run, he supports that one. But both? Hmmm.
     
  4. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Biden's waaay more Presidential than two-termer Dubya ever was, and a bit more than Cheney was. There's a balance between Reagan's pseudo-royalty schtick and Carter's common man personality, and I think Biden can fit that.
     
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  5. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    He will support Biden. He's already chipped in to pay off Hil's campaign debt and given her a job after she tried to smear him.
     
  6. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Biden should be named VPOTUS for life. Has there ever been a more perfect marriage of a man with a job?
     
  7. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]

    Yes, I'd say there has.
     
  8. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Two things:

    1) 2016 is a long time away.

    2) PPP is nice in that it releases its questions and question ordering, but we still don't know their sampling techniques so they could be looking for voters rather than randomly sampling. Also, with a year out from the election PPP could be way off and attribute it to something other than inaccuracy/bad polling practices. Third, if I were a Congressman I'd hate going up against "Generic Other Guy" because I could never attack him/her or draw a contrast; generic candidates usually resemble the voters' Ronald Reagan/Jed Bartlet politico-masturbatory fantasies rather than human beings.

    That being said, if I were the GOP and I were reading these poll numbers, I'd be doing everything I could in those states to increase Republican turnout and decrease Democratic turnout and fast, too.
     
  9. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    3) Bill Young announced his retirement today, and just before the government shutdown Spencer Bachus also said he would. Young comes from a district Obama won while Bachus comes from a ruby-red district. Of the five Democrats leaving the House, none are retiring and only two (IA-1, ME-2) are competitive (+10 in the Cook's PVI. Of the nine Republican districts being vacated, four are retirements and four are competitive (CA-45, FL-13, MN-6, WV-2). Watch the announcements of retirees during this government shutdown fight. If this 4:1 ratio of retirees from each party maintains and we see total retirements (for other office or just quitting politics) hit 35, what they were before, this means that the Democrats in office believe they will recapture the chamber and want some sweet committee spots. If retirements even out, then the chamber is likely to remain Republican.
     
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  10. Crimen y Castigo

    May 18, 2004
    OakTown
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why Elizabeth Warren Should Scare Hillary Clinton
    "In addition to being strongly identified with the party’s populist wing, any candidate who challenged Clinton would need several key assets. The candidate would almost certainly have to be a woman, given Democrats’ desire to make history again. She would have to amass huge piles of money with relatively little effort. Above all, she would have to awaken in Democratic voters an almost evangelical passion. As it happens, there is precisely such a person. Her name is Elizabeth Warren."


    I quite like Warren. I don't think this will happen, in part because I think Warren respects Clinton too much and in part because I think this story's promulgation is part of the right's attempt to throw anything and everything on the tracks in front of the Clinton '16 Express.

    But six months before his nomination, I also thought Obama would never happen.
    Clinton lost to Obama in part (IMveryHO) because she is such an established part of the machine, and Obama represented real hope. And I think that same dynamic holds true with Warren. Benghazi is going to explode over and over and over again between now and the nomination, and it may become the deciding 'electable' factor in the primaries. Again, I doubt it, but who knows.

    And it would be a personal tragedy of Greek proportions to see Clinton -- who was poised to be written into history in a landmark election, only to be out-landmarked by Obama; who so desperately wanted the White House in '08, then seemed resigned to never getting there, only to be drawn back in by popular demand -- lose the nomination again and see someone else become the first woman president.

    Amy Poehler's impersonation of Hillary seems so perfect right now...
     
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  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Obama beat Hilary because of his Iraq vote, well that is what kept hig going before the grass roots and the money took over.
     
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  12. Val1

    Val1 Member+

    Arsenal
    Mar 12, 2004
    MD's Eastern Shore
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
  13. Dominican Lou

    Dominican Lou Member+

    Nov 27, 2004
    1936 Catalonia
    I don't know, the very liberal Di Blasio got elected NYC mayor, Seattle elected someone from the Socialist Party to its city council.

    There's definitely a move to the left. Warren may be able to pull it off.

    Oh, and that clip is an all-time SNL classic.
     
  14. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. Crimen y Castigo

    May 18, 2004
    OakTown
    Club:
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. Waliatiger

    Waliatiger Member+

    Jul 1, 2013
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Dems usually never have uncontested primaries especially when it's an open seat. But I see Hillary like a semi incumbent so she will be like Gore in 2000 face token primary opposition nothing major.
     
  17. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. chaski

    chaski Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 20, 2000
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    For your consideration --
    Governor Jerry Brown
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...3d0e0c-e5cc-11e3-8f90-73e071f3d637_story.html

    Mellow out or you will pay. :)
     
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  19. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    I've heard Jim Webb mentioned as a candidate.
     
  20. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. Germerica

    Germerica Member+

    May 2, 2012
    Club:
    Los Angeles
  23. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    She is dumb; everyone knows he was a vampire hunter.
     
  24. Chesco United

    Chesco United Member+

    DC United
    Jun 24, 2001
    Chester County, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    and that he sold poison milk to school children.
     

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