Was that headline trollerific enough? Here's the story: http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/ne...glish-premier-league-oppose-relegation-system
Your title isn't trollerific, its just plain wrong. The article says that half of EPL owners are foreign and that "some" want to abolish relegation. My rough guess is that "some" means 1 or 2. IOW, it will never happen.
Wow, that's completely inaccurate. The story came from Richard Bevins, head of the league Managers Association, and he pointed at "foreign owners" in particular US and some Asian owners. Of the 20 EPL clubs 5 are American owned and two by Asian owners. That's 8 clubs and Aston Villa's owner, Lerner, has already released a statement basically questioning the allegation, so at least one American owner is openly distancing from the idea. In the end there are other threads already started on this with much more accurate titles.
Awesome!Maybe with this amazing owners and with such AWESOME ideas,maybe they will change the name of Man United into Manchester Buccanears or Broncos London.And when they get bored,they move Manchester Buccanears to ..Baltimore
Half of EPL Owners want to end promotion/relegation? Really? Well, oddly enough, half of my ball sack is filled with my left testicle. Actually slightly more than half since my right testicle is slightly smaller than my left one.
What the ********. do you really have to talk about your ball sack in a thread on EPL Pro/Rel. go to a porn site or something.
if any EPL owner was smart they'd want to end Pro/Rel, especially the owners of teams who are consistently in the bottom half. on average an EPL team makes 45 million pounds on TV revenue but a team from the championship make about 1 million. owners would get a much better investment from in a league of set franchises
football isnt nba,nhl or nfl. england isnt US.Football worked fine for centuries with rel/promotion,why to broke the toy?just because 2-3 nfl owners want to?it wont happend,otherwise would split the football in 2,and a brand new league would be formed.
They also remained attached to the existing pyramid rather than breaking off from it. The difference is that unlike the NFL, or any N. American sport, football has an existing hierarchy which starts with FIFA, on down to the confederations like UEFA or CONCACAF to the national federations and then the leagues. Unless the EPL broke off from the English Football federation and I haven't heard about it, this is vastly different from N. American leagues who do not exist under sanctioning from any international or national body. The closest thing are the international agreements that the MLB has set up with the posting system with NPB or their official co-liscencing of the WBC with IBAF for baseball's official premier international tournament confirmed recently. However even then MLB does not subordinate themselves to any other body.
There was plenty of talk in 1992 about ending p&r to the EPL, but it was determined that the public wouldn't have stood for it. Sucks for me as a QPR supporter...
I am really surprised that the American owners in question suggested this. Randy Lerner at Villa and the new Liverpool owners have worked hard to show they understand football. So why ruin it by suggesting something has stupid as this? My personal blog: www.resultsbasedbusiness.co.uk
Wow, way to plug your blog .... not so much. Also, in a purely business sense it isn't as "stupid" as you'd like to believe.
Yes it may make sense for business purposes but that doesn't wash with fans in the UK. Promotion and relegation is part and parcel of football. The fact that the US owners have come out and said this has hardened some fans belief that foreign owners (especially US owners) are bad for the game. Its a sport first, business second. If you are a poor team then you suffer the consequences.
That's where you're wrong. It isn't the 1950's anymore. I'm not saying I like it, but that's what it is. Thinking differently is either ignorance or stupidity. You pick.
How many owners would agree to the end of pro/rel if the caveat was that their team had to be eliminated from the league before the change took place? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I wonder what larger clubs like WHU, Leeds and others would have to say about this if their clubs were on the outside looking in when such a change occurred?
I wonder if these owners realize that UEFA allots Champions League spots to countries, not leagues. If they tried this all the English FA would have to do is point out that from that point forward EPL teams wouldn't be eligible for England's Champions League berths unless they were defending Champions League winners or won the previous Europa League, also the only way for a Premier League team to get into the Europa League would be to win the FA Cup. At that point I wonder how many Premier League teams would be so eager to end promotion/relegation?
It will never happen. Simple fact that under the Premier Leagues own constitution, any changes to its rules and regulations has to be OK'd with the FA. And it would take some kind of earth-altering event to allow it to happen! As with a lot of these, it could very well be seen from 2 different angles. 1) "Foreign owners who do not really understand 'our' game!" 2) One owner sounding out an idea to see what the reaction would be. I am fairly sure that the owners knew it would be an unpopular idea, but guess they where looking to see if they had any kind of wriggle room in the uproar. If anyone supported the idea. They didnt! As much as some owners may see it as a smart move financially, allowing them to better protect their investment, it is practically one of the dumbest plans ever. The fans are against it. Dave Whelan weighed in on it in his typical, gentle, subtle style (Gotta love him dearly!). Essentially declaring the idea madness. Sir Alex Ferguson has also rubbished the idea, and possibly the best source of all, Scudamore. Scudamore is the Premier Leagues Chief Executive, and he has essentially said the idea makes no sense, there is no appetite for it, and will never happen. So, ready for the story to resurface this summer? Again?
If the English clubs in UEFA competitions didn't come from the EPL then wouldn't elite players want to play in League Championship to get in the Champions League? That could lead to League Championship catching and becoming better than the EPL which is something the FA wouldn't want. Of course as long as promotion and relegation continue my post isn't about reality.
It wont happen. The system has been in place for far too long as it is. Unwinding it would be too messy and complicated. Like this stupid Euro league rubbish. Euro football is supposed to be exciting, whilst league is the bread and butter.
