GOP Failure Watch Part III

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  1. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    It was both, IIRC. And a fair percentage of the people saying he's a clown (which he certainly has been at times) wanted to have another chance to do so anyhow. Jesse was more well-known when his scandal broke than this guy, too, so the woman got less publicity.
     
  2. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    Not that I feel any sympathy for this douchebag, but if you get caught screwing your secretary, you have to either fire her or leave your wife. You just can't stay with your wife and not fire the secretary - that will never fly.
     
  3. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    One of my old fathers-out-law did that. He got fired and divorced-- and the secretary got his job. Kinda made me believe in karma...
     
  4. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Now now, it was just a kiss. ;)

    Yeah like that will convince the wife.
     
  5. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Nope, not buying.

    And unlike most of you, I am fine with sluts. Have no problem with them. Wouldn't care if my daughter was one. So I'm quite sensitive to actual slut shaming. But I am also sensitive to whining memes that rely on arguments like "you know a female congressman would resign." No, I don't know.

    I'd rather talk about the real examples of male privilege. There are plenty of those, after all.
     
  6. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bro, read your Freakonomics. Money doesn't buy shit if the opponent is also rich. Third parties do well in this country when they first go after the state legislatures.
     
  8. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You want a soccer board filled with mostly wealthy white American men to discuss male privilege...

    And they rant at me for holding people to absurd standards.

    :p
     
  9. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    And how do they go after state legislatures when they can't get on state ballots? The whole system is designed by the powerful to limit access to the powerless. You should know that, poindexter.
     
  10. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The LP and Greens have to get on a state ballot regardless of which office they contest. That costs X money.

    Would you agree or disagree that the money it takes to successfully organize an election campaign and win a state legislative seat is LESS than the amount of money it takes to successfully organize a presidential election campaign?
     
  11. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Except these are the 10% of wealthy white old dudes who vote for Obama, so yes it probably could happen. I mean we're not a normal crowd, given our demographics we should be clutching our guns and listening to Rush and Glenn dispense economic advice. .
     
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  12. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    False choice. It's not likely that a third party is going to win either.

    I've stood in the cold and rain getting sigs so that people will have the opportunity to vote for a third party. Then the Republocrats get half of them thrown out and you have to do it again. That's when the lawyers get involved. The cost in human energy and money and pride is immense. There's rarely anything left for publicity and of course you get no media or debates. But the payoff is that up to 1% of the voting population will get an opportunity to throw away their vote on some party that's buried below the Legalize Marijuana Now Party on a ballot.

    In New York, which I'll suppose is among the most enlightened states when it comes to ballot access, any party that gets 50,000 votes in the governor's race gets (shitty) ballot access until the next governor's election. So it makes much, much more sense for a small party to focus on that election. (The Greens routinely shoot themselves in the nuts by nominating awful, embarrassing candidates for governor but realistically what plausible candidate would consider running outside of the Republocrat machine?)

    Anyway, the whole process is unbelievably frustrating and expensive and soul-raping and it's very difficult to imagine that it wasn't purposefully made that way.
     
  13. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
    There Be Dragons Here
    Club:
    Birmingham City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I didn't ask you if there was a +50% chance of winning either, or that winning either was more likely. I asked you which would cost less.

    Here's how I see it. You have $1 million in the bank after getting ballot access. You can spend all $1 million on a presidential campaign, OR you can spend $100,000 on ten state house legislative campaigns with decent-looking (not physical, but their political attributes) candidates. Do me a favor and roll one die every five minutes and tell me how long it takes to roll three sixes in a row. Then take ten dice and roll all of them every five minutes. Lemme know how long it takes to get three sixes.
     
  14. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jesse should have spent more time parenting. Maybe his kid wouldn't be in jail right now.
     
  15. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Sin city? Too tempting!

    http://crooksandliars.com/2014/04/religious-right-demands-rnc-not-choose-las

    The GOP is supposedly interested in reaching out to conservatives and evangelicals. Maybe that’s just a front, but if they really mean it this is not the way to do it," James Dobson, founder of Family Talk, a Christian radio show that broadcasts across the United States, told the paper. "Even though Vegas has tried to shore itself up and call itself family-friendly, it’s still a metaphor for decadence. There's still 64 pages of escort services in the Yellow Pages."

    /quote
     
  16. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire

    And he knows how many pages of escort services are in the LV Yellow Pages how, exactly?
     
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  17. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Well, be fair... that's not the sort of thing you'd want to say with extensive... and I do mean extensive, research, is it :)
     
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  18. HerthaBerwyn

    HerthaBerwyn Member+

    May 24, 2003
    Chicago
    But not specialized enough for GOP tastes. Vegas is annoyingly hetero-centric for the party of the Big Log Cabin
     
  19. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    That should have been withOUT, shouldn't it :(

    ;)
     
  20. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Further down in the article the author made the same comment and added that nobody uses the YP anymore. For a moment I considered posting it to the "republicans shouldn't use new media" thread...
     
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  21. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Thad Cochrane in Mississippi is being primaried. Cochrane per his opponent is soft on ObamaCare. Cochrane responded that he has voted more than 100x against ObamaCare.

    That pretty much said all that needs to be said about the uselessness of the GOP, well that and that his "fiscally conservative" opponent said that Mississippi needs the federal government to spend more because it's good for the Mississippi economy (the military naturally).
     
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  22. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    They have them on speed-dial presumably :D
     
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  23. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    [​IMG]

    It took me a while to find the cartoon. I'm going to add it to my favorites, it is pretty useful when talking about the TP.
     
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  24. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    That's the Mississippi election. The Tea Party candidate's big attack is a lie about Cochrane supporting the ACA; the vote that the TP guy cites was some procedural thing -- Cochrane of course has always opposed The Devil's Health Plan and, as he said, has voted against it 100x to prove it.

    The election is a contest on who can blame Obama the most.
     

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