Gold Cup: Mexico vs. Panama (7/9/09) [R]

Apparently we can have a USA vs. Mexico at the New Texas Stadium..



Oh BTW Mexico already qualified to the next round... Is the pressure off?

Sorry I meant Philly...

RDL will you go?

Im not blaming everything on ochoa but from what i could see i feel that he could have done more

they did respond and like I said the fans stop throwing beer behind the players benches, then the panamenos were heading back to the stands and the back up goalkeeper from panama picked up a waterbottle and threw it right at a Mexico fan. Then he continued to make it worse by taliking shit from his hand gestures he kept at pointing at the fan and himself and outside (we all know what he is trying to say).
I do not know what was and what wasnt shown on tv but after that happened the fans began to continue throwing beer the players could not do anything about it (I was sitting front row in the corner where the players came out of the locker room into the field so I got to see all the action up close).

the ref has plenty to do with this, he should not have allowed to delay the game for so long, and if he is going to finish the game he should give the correct amount of time to finish the game.
He lost control of the game very early, this game was not even physical it was completely abusive i was surprised the players action took the eating and did not react back.

There was two charter buses from monterrey and many more come driving, they are the reason that help fill up the stadium, I think this has been the worst attendance I have seen here at reliant and even then it was 40k.

Live music, tailgating, competitions yea its definately going to get bad regulating the sells of Beer would have been great too.

yes,yes, no..

Exactly but I think he should have just gotten on the refs face and not "kick"

before the mexico game started, compean was standing near the locker room entrance, someone threw a paper airplane and bam right in the forehead. He could not figure what hit him until a fan told him then he told security and left, everyon in that lower section was cracking up.

mosco that.

That was a diffrent scenario as Hugo Sanchez had taken over the National team and was trying to implement his style of play and there was resistance from players who were loyal to the Lavolpe camp claiming that they did not understand el mas Machos tactics.

The main diffrence is that the majority of their players are in semi-pro teams and do not need to worry if they get injured; this is also their showcase to try and get noticed. I was listening to ESPN Deportes radio the morning after the match and one of the panelist was critisizing Gio's performance after the Panamanian's started to hack. And I am like wtf; the dood's future is still uncertain and getting injured would only make his current situation worse.

I do not get tired of mentioning Copa America (07) which is a great tourney to gauge Mexico's level; especially when the rivals take their top players which was the case last time around. Aguirre said it best the FMF made a mistake by sacking Hugo.

You are giving them too much credit. If they had better technique at midfield they would of been able to hold on to their two-nil lead over Brazil. Where was their technique in San Jose? Still, they are more consistant because they have been working together longer. Same coach; same tactics; the players know what their role is.

Yes it does; it has just been interupted too many times by the four coaching changes and the constant player shuffling. Not too recently there was a valid critisism about the number of players that have been called up to the national team. The key word here is consistancy.

It is a shame that Torrado lost his form; the one he had in 02 made was reminiscent of Garcia Aspe. And it is also a shame that Pardo can not play as good with el Tri as he did in Stuttgart. I think by this point in the WC cycle Aguirre is not willing to try out a completely new set of DM's.

I will attribute that loss to the changing of the guard for the third time. It is no secret that the Nads have the Tricolor blue prints and it only makes thing's easier for them when their is coaching changes especially because for the most part the players remain the same. Same thing happened in 2000 when their dark reign over the Tri began.

They had not been able to win against Lapuente; but then Hugo was given the Tri-pumas then Arena got his first win over Mexico. Meza came in and lost every game possible; Aguirre suffered the same fate as did Lavolpe, Sven, and so on and so forth. The fact that Mexico is going through the same motions as almost ten years ago only shows that FMF did not learn their lesson.

I think we can all agree that briging in Sven was a mistake; not because he is not qualified but because it was the wrong time to bring in a coach not familiar with the region. Anyways, what do you expect from a team that has gone through three diffrent coaches and X number of players in one cycle.

It would not be the first time that the U.S has managed to hold their own at Azteca; they did it with Steve Sampson. However, knowing the Nads way of thinking they will not go into Azteca playing balls to the wall. They will play for the tie and look to secure their WC Qualification at home. In the event that they decide to venture past their own half I can forsee only a fifteen minute assult. And in all honesty I would welcome an attacking mentality from them; bring it b'tches.

It is too risky at this stage to try out a new set of inexperienced DM's. That and well the Tri has basically called up every available player. Luis Miguel Noriega will probably be the last of the new call up's and then it's back to the tried and tested.

I was actually pleased with Leandro's performance with el Tricolor. Who else is out there; well Edagr Pacheco deserves a second look by Aguirre.

The technique is there; Guardado, Gio, Vela, Nery, and Marquez all have what it takes. Sadly, we havent been able to consistantly field all of them at the same time.