Gold Cup: Mexico vs. Panama (7/9/09) [R]

Discussion in 'Mexico National Team: News, Analysis & History' started by sidspaceman, Jul 9, 2009.

  1. El Pipiripau

    El Pipiripau Member+

    Jul 10, 2006
    Escondido!!!
    Club:
    Club Santos Laguna
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Yes and inferring that all that 90% was engaging in said deplarable behavior isn't biased either, ok....
     
  2. Carcacha

    Carcacha Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    It's about respect....for your surroundings. That shit doesnt fly in the USA, the USA does not represent the futbol culture in the rest of the world. If that happened in Mexico, I wouldnt care but it raises eyebrows in an environment that does not welcome that kind of behavior. That's all I'm saying. If one wants to behave like an animal in ones own country, then that's fine but have some class/respect/dignity/manners when in other surroundings, where that shit isnt acceptable

    It's really not that hard, just a little common sense and some manners.
     
  3. metalmaster

    metalmaster Member+

    Jul 7, 2004
    In the wrong hood
    Club:
    Hakoah Maccabi Ramat Gan
    Word! You can lump a whole group of people wit all them drunk idiots at the stadium last night.

    It is not shit like this happens in Houston. You would think these idiots would learn and provide better security as well.
     
  4. El Washatero

    El Washatero Member+

    Nov 5, 2007
    AP Top 25!
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All the footy games i have been to at reliant usually have shit like this

    The america vs barcelona game had tons of brawls
     
  5. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    What do you mean this doesn't happen in the USA?

    Their is a reason that they have a jail in the Linc.
     
  6. El Washatero

    El Washatero Member+

    Nov 5, 2007
    AP Top 25!
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mosco that

    I am 100% sure all of the crowd in attendance lives in Houston so spare me the "have some class/respect/dignity/manners when in other surroundings" bullshit
     
  7. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I always thought Ron Artes attacked fans in Detroit turns out it wasn't Detroit after all.
     
  8. Carcacha

    Carcacha Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    when you go to someone else's house do you..

    put your feet up on their couches?
    fart?
    take a shit without flushin the toilet?
    etc

    Point is you may do whatever you want when you're in your house, but when your outside of it, you have to be a bit more respectful and have some manners, its not that hard
     
  9. Carcacha

    Carcacha Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    it happens but its more controlled and not at the level of last night
     
  10. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So do you just not watch sports in the states?
     
  11. Carcacha

    Carcacha Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Do you find players getting shit thrown at them so much that they never to be escorted out by the police at Cubs, Bulls, or Bears games?

    No. That shit isnt tolerated in the USA, you get crazy at profesional venues like that you get your ass thrown in jail, period

    That's my point.
     
  12. Pirru

    Pirru Member+

    Sep 21, 2004
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    detroit vs pacers brawl :confused:
     
  13. Carcacha

    Carcacha Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    yeah and what were the consequences? a big soap opera if i remmeber

    Im not sayin it doesnt happen
     
  14. El Washatero

    El Washatero Member+

    Nov 5, 2007
    AP Top 25!
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So your saying that the people who went to the game are guest ?
     
  15. TallTowerMan

    TallTowerMan Member+

    Apr 8, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR

    LOL....every Phillies game that I have ever been to has been like that. The Dodgers vs the Giants in the Pavilions are like that. Chargers vs. Raiders...check that....Raiders vs. anyone. On....and on....and on.....
     
  16. TallTowerMan

    TallTowerMan Member+

    Apr 8, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Club Tijuana
    Nat'l Team:
    China PR
    Seriously. Anyone that wants to get a taste of these types of things just needs to go watch the Phillies in the bleacher seats. ********ing crazy out there.:D
     
  17. CeltTexan

    CeltTexan Member+

    Sep 21, 2000
    Houston, TX USA
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Super.

    The point that needs to be understood is that we are trying to grow the game of association football in our sporting culture where as those other games are not.

    I was asked by the Texans FO back in '03 to provide some ideas on how they can grow their profits from these international soccer matches at Reliant and so I gave them a 3 page document with several ideas.
    My main suggestion was "safety first" and having better security for the folks that turn up to our CONCACAF events and are forced to stand next to a rival supporter.

    There are many of us down here in Houston that have worked very hard over many years to grow the beautiful game in our city and I will be the first to tell you that shit can and will hit the fan at Gold Cup soccer matches or MLB stands out in the cheap seats. Shit happens. Check. But a better and more wise outlook on how footy fans can interact with each other after large doses of chelas is what's needed asap.
     
  18. Ags09

    Ags09 Member

    Club America
    Mexico
    Jun 16, 2006
    Philly
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    ppl need to stop being butt hurt shit like this happens all the freakin time...no one is going to be able to stop it as long as people have alcohol and racy comments are made between people...let it goo damnn!
     
  19. Ronrris

    Ronrris Member+

    Feb 13, 2008
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    sooo....we brought aguirre because we wanted our players to have garra, to play with huevos....
    great example aguirre.....
     
  20. ElPibeDeOro

    ElPibeDeOro New Member

    Jun 2, 2009
    Sillicon Valley
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    Supermoderator and others,

    With all due respect... These concepts of trolling and socks (now insects too) are totally misused to dismiss legitimite posts. The fact is that last night's game was apalling in many levels which even the totality of the Mexican Press deplored.

    You can call me anything you like but the fact is that you would do best to address the points I listed (politely, I believe) that simply recurr to name calling and threats. I am not calling anyone names and, in fact, I support Mexico - except when they play a couple of teams that are closer to home.

    Have you heard of the original soccer forum on Usenet - rec.sport.soccer. Those were the days of open dialogue and camaraderie by those of us who love the beautiful game. I was one of the earliest members and had more time in my hands at the time.

    There was a Mexican (Arturo ?last-name?) who was an encyclopaedia of knowledge, not just on Mexican soccer but the world wide game. We sometimes disagreed but we dialogued.

    Peace.
     
  21. Ags09

    Ags09 Member

    Club America
    Mexico
    Jun 16, 2006
    Philly
    Club:
    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    :confused:
     
  22. El Pipiripau

    El Pipiripau Member+

    Jul 10, 2006
    Escondido!!!
    Club:
    Club Santos Laguna
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    You're beyond naive if you think that the bulk of Mexico supportors actually live in Mexico. It's impossible to prove I'm fairly certain that most of them were either us citizens or legal residents. The way I see it is our house, unless you meant white citizens only. You're just full of pathetic arguments.

    Again not excusing what some did but if everone is so bent and
    horrified I recommend the mls. I'm fairly certain that you won't see any shenanigans, violence, passion, etc.
     
  23. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Did you also let them know how much hate Mexicans and that you think they are the lowest of the lows? It's a shame that crash of 2002 erased all those posts.
     
  24. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So let me get this straight you are telling me that a newbie that doesn't support Mexico should be the one that decides the direction of the thread?:rolleyes:
     
  25. CyberAce100

    CyberAce100 Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    We're talking about the fans like we've never seen them throw crap on the field before. Hell even Salvadorean fans were throwing sh!t at the Costa Rican players on every corner kick. Classless? Yeah. New? Hell no. When it comes to Aguirre, he just embarrassed himself and the team. Even the English SportsCenter gave his stupid ass mistake some air time. He better get his act together, cause him along with his useless assistants haven't given us anything. Except going against everything he promised not to do, and yesterday's infamous act. En este momento el equipo es una basura.
     

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