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Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by johan neeskens, Nov 6, 2011.
i think you mean hes the "youssshh can't winsshh anysshhing wisshhh kidsshh" hahahaha
I was gonna say, I think the hardest problem is having the players understand his through that thick Dutch accent.
LOL Its a strange one that, he did it once. EVERYONE! laughed, and said how stupid it was, and i would imagine he would be thoroughly embaressed, then next thing we know hes done 4-5 more exactly the same! the mans a fool
it should be said also, his record since leaving Twente has been shaky at best.
This is McClaren's son's twitter account, he tweeted Spring voor Twente Spring voor Twente (jump for Twente) an hour ago so I guess the deal is done, welcome back Steve.
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I was wondering the exact same thing! I'll try and think of a new thread title and will then ask the mods to close this one.
I've seen Twente more than enough last season to conclude that they do have the worst squad individually out of the top 4. They can be a better team than the others though.
That's an even less credible post than your previous one as last season we still had Ruiz and Janssen while PSV spent 28 million last summer to reinforce their squad and AZ was in crisis pretty much last season. You do know Twente lost the league on the last day last season right. So if our squad was so inferior then I'd like know how you feel about the performance of the other three.
I don't mean to bite your head of but we've been hearing for years that our squad is inferior yet we're the best performing club in the league over the past three years. Football is a team sport and 11 Messis win you nothing. You need a balanced squad and besides, no Dutch club can afford Messi type quality anyway. Differences in quality are very small in the Dutch top five, anyone can beat anyone on the day. What makes the difference in the Dutch league in that top five is team performance, and I'm not just talking about on the pitch performances.
I little passion---love it
I agree that on any given day any of the top five can beat any other
on the first half of the year AZ was 2 wins-at home--1 tie and a loss away--probably the best of the top 5
but I watched Twente and Feyenoord in the airport in Punta Cana on dec-17--and if that was a good Twente team they would have beat Feyenoord easily as Feyenoord looked pretty young and panicky at 3-2--but they did not even tie
Twente don't have it this year--IMO--and if Douglas ever went down I think they would really sink fast
despite how some of their supporters acted with the firecracker noises, that is an intimidating atmosphere and that did help out a little in getting feyenoord over the finish line holding onto that lead at the end. It wasn't all on the bad side for Twente.
How is it less credible when everything you say only reinforces my point?
thats exactly what i was thinking! ha
Cudos, on the douglas shout up there too CANADA - AZ.. although i dont rate douglas as highly as some here (too clumbsy for me) i think twente would really struggle without him. they have always (for me atleast) been a negative non attacking team, who try to knick it at the end when the opposition is too tired to defend anymore. which, im not knocking.. as it works. and to lose their main defender would be a disaster.
You're basing your opinion on last season when you can't compare the two Twente squads. Just admit it, it's silly to have an opinion on a team that you yourself admit you've barely seen play.
Of course you can compare the two Twente squads. And I'd say they're weaker than last year.
We haven't had it so far (the season's only half way) thanks to Adriaanse's tinkering and kamikaze football, yet we're still number three and just five points behind the league leaders. Things can only get better.
All Dutch top sides are in the same boat, when they lose a star player they're immediately in trouble. I don't see how Twente is different in that from others. Particularly seeing that Twente is a better financial position than any other team in the top five and thus in a better position to find replacements should someone leave this winter.
So you don't rate Douglas yet think we'd be lost without him. Schiet mij maar lek.
Reading is difficult.
The squad as a whole is stronger. As in we've got more strength in depth. We're obviously missing creative genius though, not just because we lost Ruiz and Janssen but also because we were without Chadli for the first couple of months and he's still not fully fit (as in he ate all the pies).
A team with the likes of Mihaylov, Douglas, Chadli, Ola John and Luuk de Jong is fully capable of finishing in the Dutch top three, and if we do that, we've done well. I'm not saying we've got a brilliant team, but it's good enough for the money we've spent. If McClaren can do what Adriaanse didn't, as in bring a bit of calm in the player group and play with the same starting XI for a couple of games in a row, and make the best use of player strengths, then who knows what'll happen in the second half of the season.
He doesn't rate Douglas highly. Then adds we'd in trouble without him. This is the type of comment by someone who cannot bring himself to say anything positive about Twente or a Twente player. He reminds me of you really. Is he your sock, at all?
McClaren has returned to the only job where he had any success. The job where he walked out as soon as he got another offer. He is all about himself and money ! Had the expensive Wolfsburg team in the relegation zone before being sacked. Had a nightmare at Notts Forest and has put them on the road to relegation despite having a decent team for that level . Only time will tell if he got lucky the first time at FC Twente.
Of course he was lucky. He had Ruiz save his ass about 20 matches in the last minutes of the game.
Our head coaches have played a relatively small role in our recent success. What Twente's built on is the strength of the boardroom, the backoffice and the support staff. The club sacked Adriaanse because he pretty much wanted to take control and do things his own way, pissing off pretty much everybody who can be credited for growing this club to where it is now. McClaren by contrast is quite content purely as a match-day coach and people manager. In our league winning side, for example, it was common knowledge that Perez and NKufo hated each other. McClaren managed to keep them both happy and working well together. McClaren gets Twente and knows what's required of him. That's pretty much why he's liked over here. Don't forget he won us the biggest prize in our history. He'll always be a legend over here for that reason even if he screws up now. You get that don't you, as a football supporter.
I highly doubt that this move is all about the money. We don't exactly have a reputation for being a high paying club, not even to Dutch standards. But even if he is all about the money, who cares. I can't think of a single manager in pro football who's in it for charitable reasons, can you?
This while Ajax failed to win the league with Suarez who in your view is far superior to Ruiz. It seems even superstars need to be inspired by their coach.
One hotstreak is not enough to call someone a superstar, bro.
Er, he won Middlesbrough's only trophy in their history and got to a Uefa final. He's probably their best ever manager and it got him the England job.