Glorious Failures and Moral Victories - OTT [R]

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  1. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manucho scores a tap in after bueno sets him
     
  2. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manchester United FC
    What a hit bueno unlucky
     
  3. Invincible

    Invincible Member+

    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Man City not getting any calls out of this ref. :)
     
  4. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    Question time - of the all-time top 50 assisters in the premier league, who has the highest assists to starts percentage? Top 5?

    Same question but for goals+assists?
     
  5. Holy__Joe

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    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
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    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Including just league games, but including sub appearances (not sure where to find starts vs subs/cbf), The top 5 according to my data is

    Player (Assists / Matches) Ratio

    Nani (49/133) = 0.369
    Fabregas (71/212) = 0.335
    Henry (80/254) = 0.315
    Rooney (71/270) = 0.263
    Drogba (55/226) = 0.243


    So much for Nani being ineffective eh? Ronaldo would have been next in the list with 46/196 = 0.235, though I think if he'd been here longer that ratio would have looked much better since it's weighed down by his early developmental years.


    I'll have a look into goals+ assists in a second.
     
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  6. cr7torossi

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    May 10, 2007
    You have the 1st, 3rd and 4th in all-time premier league assist lists there Joe. Rooney and Drogba are not in the top 5.

    For the remaining two, you need to look a bit closer to home.
     
  7. Holy__Joe

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    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
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    Sporting CP Lisbon
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    Portugal
    I think i forgot David Silva for one, he'd be 28/95 = 0.295 for one.
     
  8. SyedZada

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    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Chelsea have been awful
     
  9. Invincible

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    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Funny enough, they have the personnel I personally would've sent out against City(minus Ivanovic and Luiz) but they're not executing at all.

    They seem only capable of either last ditch defending or direct counter attacking. No possession play at all.
     
  10. Holy__Joe

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    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
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    Sporting CP Lisbon
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    Portugal
    Their crossing into the box has been really ineffectual, Ba isn't dominating in the air and there's really no-one else in their attack who will. It's making it easy for City
     
  11. SyedZada

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    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    I would put Ramirez inside and make it three man midfield put hazard rw and mata lw, mikel has been average
     
  12. Holy__Joe

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    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    For the Goals and assists (again I'm going on all matches played, not starts)

    Player (G+A/M) = Per Match

    Aguero (32+12/57) = 0.772
    Shearer ( 283+27/559) = 0.555
    Solskjear (91+32/235) = 0.5234 Now this is one that I'm sure would change for starts
    Robbie Keane (137+31/321) = 0.5233
    Pires (62+38/198) = 0.505
     
  13. Holy__Joe

    Holy__Joe Moderator
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    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Also I assume your implying Beckham and or Giggs here though.
     
  14. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manchester United FC
    Should be a pen and red card
     
  15. SyedZada

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    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Only pen and lampard misses
     
  16. Holy__Joe

    Holy__Joe Moderator
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    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
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    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Ba must be happy with that penalty. Was obviously looking for it.
     
  17. billyireland

    billyireland Member+

    May 4, 2003
    Sydney, Australia
    Feck it anyway, for all the times for Lampard to miss a penalty...

    Wait for the media wankfest over Hart saving that if City don't lose, completely forgetting the fact that the penalty was 100% his fault.
     
  18. Holy__Joe

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    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    The chelsea Captains armband must be made of led and unsettle the balance of any player taking a penalty ;)
     
  19. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manchester United FC
    In all the matches lampard chooses against city to miss
     
  20. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Aguero misses a chance
     
  21. SyedZada

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    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Mata made clichy his bitch but should have gone down
     
  22. SyedZada

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    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Ramirez has been awful as well
     
  23. Holy__Joe

    Holy__Joe Moderator
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    Mar 31, 2007
    Manchester
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    Done it now for only Prem Matches started.

    Assists
    Nani 0.735
    Beckham 0.641
    Fabregas 0.626
    Henry 0.613
    Bergkamp 0.581
    With Giggs just missing out on 0.546

    Goals+assists

    Henry 1.362
    RvP 1.116
    Drogba 1.045
    Solskjaer 1.013
    RvN 1.007
     
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  24. SyedZada

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    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    What is Ramirez doing
     
  25. Invincible

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    Mar 28, 2004
    Sanctuary
    Ahhhhhhh Ramirez... :mad:

    EDIT: and Toure scores.
     

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