Glorious Failures and Moral Victories - OTT [R]

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  1. Cevno

    Cevno Member+

    Aug 27, 2005
    Shifting.
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    Manchester United FC
    Diego Lopez lol.

    Quality goal mind you.
     
  2. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manchester United FC
    Yeah I think so
     
  3. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Lebanon
    What a mistake by Diego Lopez, unacceptable, let him do that against us !
     
  4. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manchester United FC
    Rik tearing apart the defense, midfield has been shit for madrid
     
  5. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Good shot by gama good save Lopez
     
  6. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manchester United FC
    Sad to see the demise of Essien , very poorly used by Chelsea burnt him out
     
  7. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manchester United FC
    Marcelo has been poor
     
  8. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manchester United FC
    Big guns on for Madrid
     
  9. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manchester United FC
  10. jeff070

    jeff070 Member+

    Dec 31, 2004
    PA
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Lebanon
    Pizzi is a very good player.
     
  11. Ruud v.Nistelrooy 10

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    Jamaica
    Jun 4, 2006
    Antilla
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Jamaica
    Bayern(18 pts clear) and Hannover trampled Bremen and Hamburg 6-1 and 5-1 respectively. Old boy Diouf was in on the goals as well
     
  12. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manchester United FC
    Excellent goal by kaka
     
  13. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manchester United FC
    2-1 madrid game over.
     
  14. nimma

    nimma Moderator
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    Jun 5, 2006
    India
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    Manchester United FC
    Have seen Gama before a few times...The few times I watched he was very good....I particularly remember the game Depor had against Barca where Pizzi and Gama were excellent....They lost the game mind...but those 2 had great games....
     
  15. Area 51

    Area 51 Member+

    Sep 5, 2009
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    ronaldo and ozil changed the game..

    I've forgotten how dangerous Ronaldo is off the bench against a tired defense, some of those runs and tricks were vintage 03/04 ronaldo.

    Gama and Pizzi were good, i havent seen Gama in a while but I'm glad he's doing well for himself... always had the raw dribbling but just lacks some explosiveness though.

    Pizzi isnt amazing, but he's shifty and has a good right foot.

    Nelson Oliveira, only 4 goals this season for depor, and is a perennial substitute...time to look for another striker:(

    Di Maria was horrid...Essien, well injuries finished him off.

    Modric was playing well when he came off, but Kaka seemed to get a burst of energy with the belief Mourinho instilled keeping him on, fantastic goal and nice through ball for Ronaldo to start off the winner.
     
  16. cr7torossi

    cr7torossi Member+

    May 10, 2007
    All I want is for Ronaldo to get a slight injury which keeps him out for a couple of weeks over the two Clasicos.
     
  17. schafer

    schafer Member+

    Mar 12, 2004
    How did Chelsea burn him out? He had a series of serious knee injuries (a number of them on international duty) and his career suffered accordingly. I've never read or heard anything to suggest that Chelsea were at fault for them, or that the club somehow mismanaged his treatment.
     
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  18. Amdrag

    Amdrag Member+

    Jun 10, 2007
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    Manchester United FC
    Less Chelsea, more Jose. His style can be the death of any player.
     
  19. johno

    johno Member+

    Jul 15, 2003
    in the wind
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Aye. A minor hamstring pull or groin twinge would be ideal. I think we can beat them at home, Ronnie or no Ronnie. But he's an X-factor. There's no stopping him if he decides to lash one from a mile and god knows there is no stopping him in the air if the service is reasonable. Kind of thing that could change a game we are controlling.
     
  20. schafer

    schafer Member+

    Mar 12, 2004
    I'm not sure what you mean? Plenty of players have flourished under Jose, and the core of the team he assembled was still going strong enough to win the CL last season years after he left. In any case, Jose had nothing to do with Essien's demise, he only played under Jose for just over 2 seasons.

    I don't really see why there's a party that needs to be blamed here. Essien's knees gave out. It's hugely unfortunate, but it's not necessarily somebody's fault.
     
  21. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
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    Manchester United FC
    I should have said he should have been managed better, he was your answer to everything needing a lift up, midfield, fullback, defense attack, a body can handle so much.
     
  22. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
  23. schafer

    schafer Member+

    Mar 12, 2004
    I still don't see the connection between Chelsea's use of Essien and his injuries/decline. If versatility = knee injuries, then Javier Zanetti would have retired years ago, Rooney would have probably torn an ACL at this point and who knows how broken down poor John O'Shea would be.

    It's not particularly controversial to suggest that Chelsea never consistently got the best out of Essien as a player due to shuffling him around so much. I just don't see how you make the leap from that to blaming Chelsea for his injuries.
     
  24. SyedZada

    SyedZada Member+

    May 14, 2008
    Santa Clara
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Manucho in action Valladolid vs rayo
     
  25. Amdrag

    Amdrag Member+

    Jun 10, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Mourinho's style is built on his players running themselves into the ground. He has left plenty of players not the same after having managed them.
     

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