According to Ortiz: http://www.chron.com/sports/dynamo/...-begins-talks-to-acquire-Dynamo-s-3655790.php
Wow, the EPL. I hope Geoff makes it. Stoke City is a great club for Geoff. If this works out for him, he'll be starting against some of the best in the world.
Cameron, just go. Quit prolonging the agony Canetti. We know he wants out. Now let's get going and look for a replacement and sign that other DP so we don't sit in mediocrity all season.
I was against Cameron going, but this is a great opportunity for him and not worth dragging out. Take the money and move on Canetti.
IF the offer or transfer fee price is what is rumored ($1M plus) then this deal is a no-brainer for the Dynamo. Sell him and move on. His value may never be higher. This isn't like the Rico Clark deliberation on potentially selling him with 6 months left on his deal knowing he was going to leave at the end of the season vs. going for another run at the MLS Cup in 2009. The realistic approach says that the 2012 Dynamo in their current form and talent are not a title squad. Playoff team, yes, title squad, no. I was fine with holding Clark for a last run with the 2009 squad talent. This team needs a talent upgrade to be a real contender. Cameron leaving WILL hurt the defense but we may be able to get by with what we have in place (especially if Hainault returns to form) and use the additional funds for some real firepower up front.
Ream went for 2.5, so i don't see a one million dollar cutting it here. Especially when they have two year to entertain offers. Also people who think we are getting a DP out of a million dollars may be dissatisfied. I am pretty sure MLS keeps a cut. After that only a certain amount of the remaining can be used as allocation at owners discretion. Factor that into a need to replace Cameron and this type deal puts cash in pockets but wont do a whole lot for the team. Hell the owners may keep it all in cash. No i think the offer must be higher to be considered
How much does Cameron get out of the transfer fee? I recall in the past (at least before the last CBA negotiation) that MLS would sell the players but would want part of the player's share of the fee rebated to them. From a salary budget/cap perspective, we would gain Cameron's salary space plus whatever amount of allocation cash the league awards us as part of the sale. I presume that would be at least a few hundred thousand dollars.
I believe allocation money from transfer is at owners discretion up to a limit. so it could be zero. This is after everything else comes out. I think the rebate are gone so the player gets roughly 10%
They might not get another DP but they should get enough money to upgrade the midfield and/or get us a goal scorer. And I don't believe that Canetti is trying to hold things up or whatever it was people are saying. Nobody wants to stand in the way of Geoff's success. But I'm sure the team wants to get a fair return too, that just makes sense. And if he goes, I think we are in a much better position than we were when we lost Rico and Stuie. Cameron is a great player, but with some tweaking and an addition or two I don't think he's indespensable. That's not to say his contribution won't be missed.
Selfishly, I would hate to see him go. However, the big picture in me says this is good for Geoff and good for the USMNT. Good luck GC, you will be greatly missed.
I think we have enough money for a goal scorer now at the midway mark of the year. So hopefully nothing changes in regard to that search. I think the perspective fans of the club Dynamo need to keep is that should we lose Cameron, do not expect some large influx of money to go get another player. I just want people to realize that if he is sold, that does not lead to extra money for the front office to use necessarily. We may have to get a goal scorer (current plan) and replace Cameron with money we have left right now plus the portion of his salary we get relief from. Any additional allocation from the sale would be icing on the cake (and may not be used till next year anyway). Frankly, if he does get sold; we may not see any replacement this year. You may see us sign another attacking player (which is the plan before any Cameron drama) and that is all. Slot Taylor into the starting lineup and move forward. Remember, we likely have to replace Hainult next year too so they may hold onto any allocation to remake the defense next year. Finally, I am not sure this is near a done deal either. I would be surprised if the team lets him go for less than 2 million considering Ream's transfer fee a year ago. If they can get 2 million +, there is still a need for Cameron to get a work permit which is not a done deal (I think almost a dozen were turned down last year).
There is a certain central defender who we have the rights to that just needs an offer making it worth taking. Maybe it is time to break on that before the school year starts.
In light of the fact that Will Bruin has 8 goals and it's not even mid-season yet, does that change the perspective on needing a goalscorer? And if it does, does that mean we will see a replacement in defense? Also, the work permit is a non-issue. If he doesn't get a WP in England he will get picked up by Schalke or some other club in Europe. Mark my words Cameron is gone.
1) I think Dom has an idea of the type of player he wants on offense. I don't know if it is a striker or middie, but I think that search is already happening 2) If he is not able to get a permit then one of those other teams is going to need to pay the transfer fee which I think will be quite a bit. I don't think it is a good assumption that another Euro team will be willing to fork over several million if a Premiership team has to pass. I am not sure if this is a done deal at all. It could just be an official inquiry to see how cheap they can get him.
I think there is no way we replace Cameron on the backline without making a major offer for a CB player. Taylor is a pretty good option, but I wonder about his positional sense, leadership qualities, and the in-between the ears stuff required for that position. I think we go from a cup run contender to a "1 playoff round winner" when losing this kind of quality in the back. Just look at what has happened to LA defensively with the loss of Omar Gonzalez. I think Dom has proven that he truly understands the importance of defense so I'm sure he'll figure it out. I just hope we don't lose a year in doing that like we did in 2010.
just saw this thread there is absolutely NO WAY Cameron should be sold for anything less than 3-4MM USD. don't believe me? Go see what average transfer prices in the English Premier League are these days. Then add in Cameron's upside potential. Personally, I think he's worth between 3-5MM GBP. Make Stoke pay it.
Don't believe you. He's played like shit the last few games too. Making it harder to get max value for him.
Clubs in England don't pay for players based on performance over a few games. It's usually based on scouting the player over a much much longer period of time. Cameron fits the bill perfectly for an English club in both his speed of play and speed of thought. Most American players I believe would be better off starting in say Holland, Belgium, etc... but I'm confident Cameron could make the jump to the English Premier League straight out of MLS. I'd actually love to have Everton bid for him and bring him on as an heir apparent to Distin and eventual partner to Jagielka but we don't have any money.
