Garber announces MLS 2013 All Star Game site

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Fiosfan, Jan 10, 2013.

  1. kopiteinkc

    kopiteinkc Moderator
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    Jun 1, 2000
    Shawnee
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Pre-sale in Members Stand at LSP already sold out... $50 a ticket plus fees,
     
  2. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
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    Sporting Kansas City
    That only took 18 years.
     
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  3. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Or one excellent venue.
     
  4. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Arrowhead is one of the finest stadiums in the country.
     
  5. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Apparently not for MLS's ASG needs and preferences (relative to other available options since 1996).

    And it apparently ranks second even within the KC market currently.

    (Not at all to take away fom the point that "Arrowhead is one of the finest stadiums in the country.")
     
  6. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Considering they awarded MLS Cups and All-Star Games to RFK Stadium, Giants Stadium, the Sun Bowl, Foxboro Stadium, Spartan Stadium, and hell even the Rose Bowl, I beg to differ.

    To be fair, Giants Stadium was comparable, but the rest are (or were) much worse facilities. And Arrowhead was a much, much cheaper facility to use.

    Yes, the ASG is a reward for Livestrong Sporting Park, but the fact that Kansas City was overlooked or bypassed for the first 17 ASGs and 16 (awardered, not earned) MLS Cups in a league that had only 10-12 teams for most of those seasons, is a valid point of complaint. Even Orlando and San Diego have hosted All-Star Games.

    A then record 37k+ for the Costa Rica WCQ in 2001 and the 50k+ for the Manchester United friendly in 2010 show that Kansas City will turn out for marquee events.
     
  7. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    However they were hardly alone. It took a new stadium in Denver as well, despite the brand new Invesco Field, before they got an ASG (and they never got a MLS Cup either).
     
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  8. asoc

    asoc Member+

    Sep 28, 2007
    Tacoma
    I read some rumors on twitter that there is some interest in him from Del Boca Vista.
     
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  9. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
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    Sporting Kansas City
    No doubt.
     
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  10. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Differ all you want, but I can understand the league's preferences to play the earlier ASGs in bigger markets (and not in "flyover country").

    Glad KC (specifically and the league as a whole) has an awesome and appropriately sized venue at LiveStrong Sporting Park, but I don't think complaining now about the first 17 selections does anything to help support how good and appropriate and "deserving" the 18th selection was.

    Yes, if MLS really wanted to they could have opted to go to (a smallish market in) the middle of the country for any of their earlier ASGs and played in a ~40-70% full Arrowhead. But I can certainly see why they went with the ASG elsewhere until LSP was available and proven to be a venue that will sell out.

    It was a combination of the market and the too-big NFL stadium that was not drawing MLS to select KC for special events. Now that the new and right-sized stadium is in the market, KC has shown to be an awesome spot for all sorts of soccer events.

    Sure, if only the 2013 ASG were actually a "marquee event" or more specifically an event to which MLS would need to or be certain that they could (at this point) sell 37k-50k tickets. The reality is that the league will be very happy to show off the ~20k that come to that great new venue for this ASG.
     
  11. ji_shuheng

    ji_shuheng Member+

    Mar 26, 2003
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    wasn't there a post upthread quoting garber saying the league wants marquee events in SSSs, to incentivize/reward the construction of SSSs? makes it sound like MLS has chosen commitment to its SSS policy over 50k crowds, even if specific teams or USSF will choose bigger, non-SSS venues to hold a larger ticket-purchasing crowd.
     
  12. ojsgillt

    ojsgillt Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lee's Summit MO
    By going to smaller SSS ASG's are guaranteed sell outs considering, a large % of STH. I garuntee that out of towners and locals as well are going to have a hard time finding tickets. With a sell out crowd they can set a higher price point for tickets. These tickets are double what a league game is. It justifies raising the price point further for subsequent years.

    It is kinda what sporting did when they did a deal with livestrong. KC just didn't give money to the foundation, it promised a % of sales on everything in the stadium, being somewhere around 1.5 per year. That is the value before a single game was even played. We shall see shortly if it went up or down with the stadium name rights, possibly at the draft.
     
  13. Spursfan1

    Spursfan1 Member+

    Sep 7, 2010
    Atlanta
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    we need this game to get more attention. it is essential. revenue can be huge from this if we can get over 1 million viewers. maybe a double header? if we could find a way to get the previous years champions league teams to play each other THEN have the MLS all star game directly after that would be awesome.
     
  14. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Remember when the MLS All-stars in 2012 beat Chelsea (the current UCL title holders)?

    That was awesome.

    (Or are you talking about CONCACAF's Champions League finalists, and not UEFA's?)
     
  15. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    Its just Giants Stadium with grass.
     
  16. KCFutbol

    KCFutbol Moderator
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    Jun 14, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not exactly. It was renovated to the tune of $375M a few years back.

    Also, Jimmy Hoffa is not buried in one of the end zones.
     
  17. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Also, it is not in a market big enough for two NFL teams to share.
     
  18. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
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    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Correction, the 2013 ASG will now be held at Sporting Park in KC, KS. Carry on.
     
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  19. KCFutbol

    KCFutbol Moderator
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    Jun 14, 2001
    Overland Park, KS
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What does that have to do with the similarity of Giants and Arrowhead Stadium? Guess I need another cup of coffee.
     
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  20. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    It has to do with the "dissimilarity" of the stadiums with respect to their locations/markets.

    I was hoping to tie it back in a bit to the discussion earlier in this thread as to why Giants Stadium was used previously by MLS for an ASG (or two) and Arrowhead was not selected/used for such an event.

    As a market, there are lots of reasons NY/NJ gets preferential treatment (and extra use, be that for NFL games or MLS "special events") relative to say a place like KC or Denver.
     

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