Gadaffi falls?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Naughtius Maximus, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. nicephoras

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    She is very matronly, that's true :D
     
  2. JBigjake

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    Doesn't seem like the footage you referenced, but another idiot on RT declaring a MSM conspiracy.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcFsvS5JZ0s&feature=related"]Libya: Rebel advances on Tripoli are misinformation and MSM Propaganda - YouTube[/ame]
    Nor this one:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSXxa0mppd4"]MSM: Media Forgets Libya was Illegal - YouTube[/ame]
    Perhaps this footage is fake, as well:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd6T7XtqiTc"]Inside Gaddafi compound: Video of Libya rebels in Bab al-Aziziya - YouTube[/ame]
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhoGNlWsObg"]Libyan wears Gaddafi's hat - YouTube[/ame]
     
  3. Anthony

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  4. JBigjake

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    Youtube must have joined the vast MSM conspiracy.
     
  5. argentine soccer fan

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    Is that the same conspiracy that Hillary used to talk about?
     
  6. Alex_K

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  7. Mr. Bandwagon

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    Haha. I'm guessing he has a guy for that.
     
  8. Naughtius Maximus

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    Perfectly reasonable... I've just planted a celebratory bomb under my neighbours car :D
    HEY! It's my new hero... 'iron-arsed' Alex :) If only she'd come and work for the BBC instead of taking the Murdoch shilling :(

    Edit: I've just checked. She USED to work for the BBC. Somehow that makes me even sadder.
     
  9. Naughtius Maximus

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    I KNEW I'd seen the guy before...

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  10. Real Corona

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    By the way, I bet nobody realizes this, but an extremely important lesson has been learned in the past few months.

    If you are a country, or more accurately part of the leadership of a country, do not under any circumstances, ever, think about, even for a second, giving up your nuclear weapons program.

    My guess is Tehran has taken note.
     
  11. JBigjake

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    fyp
     
  12. JBigjake

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    If she still did, I wonder how she'd spin the first minute of this video:
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6QPX92nYXs"]Libya Revolt: BBC Journalist's Frightening Ambush Caught on Tape as Car Speeds Away from Tripoli - YouTube[/ame]
     
  13. Real Corona

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  14. Real Corona

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    From BBC's website with user comments.

    I can't read this as anything other than sarcasm


     
  15. melodyG

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    After forty two years of rule, Libyan head Moammar Gadhafi was ousted Sunday, when rebel forces overtook the capital city of Tripoli (Tripoli falls to rebel forces). The fallen leader's whereabouts remain a mystery as thousands cheer in the streets. It's interesting to see where he'll finally surfaces. :D I heard it is suspected he may have fled south of the country.
     
  16. DoyleG

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    Saw her on a couple of nights ago talking about how people were cheering for the geat leader in Green Square, even though the crowds were the exact opposite. They had another individual who work for an anti-globalization think tank, posing as a reporter, calling for a UN force to come in and "stop the slaughter". I'm lucky I turned that off, otherwise you would be getting a bill from me for the electronics I'd have to replace. RT is teh worst when it comes to propaganda (and I've seen CCTV and TelSur).

    I wonder what the over/under will be on the TNC arresting these clowns.
     
  17. TOTC

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    I wonder what the over-under on Quaddafi spellings is going to be.
     
  18. jmartin1966

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    This is the first I read about the Khamis Brigade surrendering. That explains the quick collapse.

    "The NTC, which includes many members with past links to the regime, has proved itself adept at negotiating the surrender of entire military units, including the Khamis Brigade, whose capitulation allowed opposition forces entry into Tripoli."

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14654001
     
  19. Colm

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  20. Anthony

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    Now comes the "now what" question. Gadaffi has probably planned for this-- will he go on the run moving between safe houses while trying to continue civil war? Will his sons?

    The answer is offer him and his family safe passage to Venezuela. Not sure either side would accept at this point.
     
  21. Colm

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    With a no fly zone over Libya can't see how he'd get to Venezuela tbh.
     
  22. SpencerNY

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  23. minerva

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    I heard on the BBC that his family is from a tribe that's located pretty far south in the middle of nowhere, kinda out of the way of everything. they think that's where he'll end up. out of sight and out of mind.
     
  24. Naughtius Maximus

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    I thought he was from Sirte?
     
  25. minerva

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    So it's probably too early to tell if this is a win for Libyans, but what about Obama, and US interests in the region? Can we draw some conclusions in that regard?
    Given the fact that Qadaffi was well on his way to some kind of reprochmant with the West if late, when things started going south for him domestically, is this a positive development for the US? Even assuming that rather than turning into Iraq, or worse, Somalia, Libya becomes a relatively successful democracy, is a democracy in a region where people don't generally like us a positive development for the US? And what if (as is most likely the case) it degenerates into a civil conflict - probably along tribal lines. Is that good for US interests and influence in the region?
    And what about Obama? Is this a success story for him? Does it matter? Or will people forget by the time the election rolls around anyway? I have a feeling that if Libya is a relative success, Obama won't gain much from it. But if it turns out otherwise, the GOP will hold it against him.
     

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