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From the London 2012 Olympic Official website.....

A Russian athlete comes from the "Ukraine region".
http://www.london2012.com/athlete/sevastyanova-karolina-1013451/

Can someone explain to everyone where the "Ukraine region" in today's Russia?????

 

Linguistically and Ethnically, parts of the Belhorod, Oryol, and Kursk regions have a lot in common with Ukraine. Also, since most of Taman region had been historically populated with exiled Sich Cossacks, it could have been considered Ukrainian.

P.S. personally I think she was born in Ukraine and moved to Russia.

 

So why not say "UKRAINE" and not "UKRAINE REGION" which signifies that this so called place is within the borders of Rooossia?
Here's anudder 4 U
Mikhail Nastenko - 45YO
Born in in Kiev (RUS)....

So what's your explanation for this?

 

You're talking about the people who still say 'The Ukraine'.

Also, she needs to hurry up and turn 18.

 

She's the epitomy of what a yank wants from a mail order bride....

How many Rosey Palms will we see during the Olympics?

 

Bride? Doing it all wrong, my friend.

 

I don't need one.

I'm doing it right.

 

It has been identified that at least 30 non Russian born athletes have their birth place in Russia.

Here's anudder:
http://www.london2012.com/athlete/khtey-taras-1013482/

Lvov Region (RUS)

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

I hope Teal Bunbury starts listing his POB as 'Toronto Region, USA'.

 

Who, like Taras Shevchenko, never referred to one another as Ukrainians.

 

What do you mean? Ukrainian isn't an ethnicity, and this isn't a chauvinistic view point.

 

hahah

You know, over the years, the more ruskis I meet, the more I respect people like Gen. Patton.

 

I do not care what you or anyone calls him. But if you run into some one who's name is Perebiynis, Vershyhora, or something like that in the Taman region, you should know better.

 

But Shevchenko knew who his enemies were....
Surely you know that the Tsar of Russia, Nicholas I signed the order to exile him for his writings.

 

What I

What I mean is that the word 'Ukrainian' is nothing more tan a regional designation. The ethnic identity of that region has always been Cossack, Low Russian, or in some cases simply Russian. They had a distinct identity back then of course, but never referred to one another as 'Ukrainians'. It has nothing to do with claiming that Ukrainians = Moscow Russians, keep in mind that we're all Russians.

 

There's no doubt that Shevchenko harbored anti-Russian (Katsap was his favored term) sentiment. But this anti-Russian sentiment wasn't in the context of being a proud 'Ukrainian', he usually referred to himself as a Cossack, some other times as a low-Russian.

 

Goliath, sorry to tell you but just because a Russian person has a Ukrainian-origin last name doesn't mean anything. Many of these people have been in Russia for 2-3 centuries and are as Russian as any Vanya.

 

It is that kind of bigotry that is evident in today's Russia as evident in the official Olympic website where they do not acknowledge the geo-political borders of 2012.

This is not only evident with Russians who born into today's Ukraine but also
David Ayrapetyan who was born in “Baku (RUS)” (the capital of Azerbaijan), Alexandr Ivanov hailed from “Rustavi (RUS)” (actually in Georgia), while Tatiana Kosheleva came from “Belorussia Region (RUS).”

 

Serious question - do even you understand what you just wrote?

Ukrainian is an ethnicity and a language. Ukraine as a geographic term has been used since late 11th century, The language of Kyivans in the 12th century was already markedly different from Novgorodians or Suzdalians. Cossack is not an ethnic designation at all. Leading ethno-historians believe that the earliest cossacks were simply a mixture of various people (including non-Slavic) who had been escaping Mongol yoke or difficult economic conditions of various Rusian principalities. Ukrainians were never Russian (even though they were more Russian than Russians themselves)

 

Poles might be frightened to hear they're all Russian too.

 

Do I get to be Russian?