Maza is a great player but didn't have a good game. His distribution was off and it isn't hate to point it out. You're a great poster but you go all fanboy on certain players. If Hector Moreno had played the same exact game Maza did yesterday, you would be killing him.
That's all you seem to be able to say when someone disagrees with you. Read it again. I said that in my opinion, Maza wasn't that bad, certainly not as bad as you're portraying it. Again my opinion. You come in and state your opinion and pass it off as fact while accusing me of being a Maza fan boy? I mean, really? I just said I didn't think he had a bad game. Moreno is a different story and he has certainly been the weakest of the two center backs thus far in WCQs. Pointing out his flaws does not make me a fanboy. Seriously Rafa, get the f*ck out of here with that shit.
I stand by it. You didn't go about how he didn't have a bad game, you said you couldn't understand the hate. As if it's hating to point out he didn't play a bad game. You constantly do that with players who you like, any criticism get packed into the hate thing. Zavala, Chaton, Maza, etc. But then you are as harsh with people you don't like as people are with those players like you have been with Moreno. My opinion is the same, if Moreno had played exactly as Maza played last night, you would have killed him.
Maza wasn't that bad, in the context of how Aguilar and in general the back 4 played. I would rate Torres Nilo clearly at the top and Aguilar clearly at the bottom, with a tight fight for mediocrity champion between Maza and Ayala. Salcido was bad, nothing new. But I blame Chepo not so much for playing him, but for allowing him to play that way. If he wants to be a leader and provide some stability, he needs to play the role instead of these failed attempts at heroism that only leave the mid and defenders in a bad position. Marquez always knew he was not quick and thus never tried to take on anyone or pushed up too much exposing everyone else, he can still help the kids if Chepo instructs him better IMO. /p
IF ifs and buts were candy and nuts..........no mames I'm glad you want to stick with your opinion but the constant mud slinging and fanboy accusations do little to drive the conversation forward. You can disagree with me all you want but it's a cheap cop out to build your argument around what you perceive to be favoritism with certain players. There are plenty of people around here that keep talking about how Maza needs to be replaced by Mier or Reyes and it's not going to happen for two reasons. A) Maza has been consistently good and B) Chepo isn't that short sighted. Just because Maza has been good doesn't mean he hasn't made mistakes. Moreno has made mistakes as well but his have been more prominent and have made him look shaky. As far as the "what ifs" you seem obsessed with, I don't know if you noticed but I backed Chaton when a bunch of people hated him. I backed Mier when almost nobody rated him. Same with Herrera. Just because I'm not quick to pull the trigger on certain players when they make mistakes or show bad form, it doesn't mean I'm a "fan boy". Sigues ardido con lo de Torrado y Castro no? No te aguites compa, esos cuates ya habian caducado en la seleccion.
If by back up you mean chastising people for every criticism then yes you back them up. But it's funny when you do that constantly with players that you don't like. Maza has a bad game and it's hate to point it out. Yet Moreno can't do a mistake without you railing against him. Yet that isn't hate but it's hate to say Maza made a bad game just like if somebody says the same about Zavala or Chaton.
I can confirm this. There was a time when Chaton didn't look convincing to me... IMD kept saying "give him time, he's young." Now Chaton is one of the best players we have coming up. You're a great poster IMD... I just want to take you and pin you up to my wall... next to the Bruce Lee poster I have.
Perhaps... But I'm poking fun at Rafa and how he always tells IMD that "He's a great poster." When he's about to disagree with him or call him out....
Estas patinando wey.... I like Moreno so I don't know how you came to the conclusion that I don't. I also criticized Chaton when he f*cked up. I'm not sure I follow your logic.
He go knocked on his ass and conceded a corner as a direct result of this. Your making this out to be strength when it was clearly shown it wasn't. Your assessment is lacking and incomplete.
As opposed to taking one play and trying to make a trend out of it? Sure, he lost one (read: some) but he also won others. Hence the term "compete physically" Compete. Did you expect him to completely dominate Jorgensen?
Both teams looked pretty good to me for being domestic squads in January. I only watched the first half though.
For those of you defending Torres Nilo and Aguilar, you're crazy!!! They were the weakest part of the team last night. Along with Aldo who was wearing cement boots.
I remember this one, but it was not like he tried for the "carga" and lost, he thought he was getting the "carga por la espalda call" and in his defence (Torres Nilo's) it was tight call in that regard, you can criticize him for expecting the call, but it is not like Aquino's case where he simply has to rely on techincal ability. /p
what re-run of an early Tigres game did you watch last night son? I am not a TNNR, but out of the 4 he was the better one in the back. /p
actually the entire back line was the weakest line last night. of the 4 ayala had the cleanest game. torres nilo had trouble defending all night and his attacks were weak and predictable. also i expect more from torres nilo so i am harder on him than the others. i know aguilar isn't NT material and i saw that last night. i also know what maza are ayala can do and for the most part did what they do. torres nilo however, i expect more because i know he can play better. let me ask you a question, would guardado do better a LB than T.Nilo did last night???
i'm worried Chepo will keep Salcido during the rest of the qualifiers and pin the tie on Nilo. I want to see this next week: ----------------Chicharito------------------ Guardado-------Fabian----------------Gio Enriquez-----------------------Herrera Nilo-------Ayala--------Moreno----Jimenez subzz Peralta R. Jimenez Aquino Cortez Pena Cabrera Chavez Mier Reyes Vidrio
Update on the game… I had upper level tickets.. didn’t really want to spend that much on this crap game. Then my wisoness kicked in again. I saw the same SUM suits from the night before and went up to them. Two of the were waiting outside the suite entrance level waiting for someone. I knew they would remember me since I was overly friendly at the hotel. I said hi and asked them how their day had been, small talk again.. introduced Andrea (the wife) One of them was a local guy that has some contract with SUM to take care of the team. He then asked me where I was seated.. gave them an excuse that ticketmaster had only these seats available.. he actually felt bad for me and let me walk in with him to the suite level. When we got there… there were more suits.. important suits.. Apparently some Coca cola guys were there. The guy came up to me and told me if I wanted to stay here or wanted Field tickets.. Of course I chose the field tickets.. The wife and I had these passes that gave us access to the bottom of the field. Not only that. I could go into the tunnel where the players exited and came in. I stood next to the ball boys the whole game. I walked with the players out of the tunnel in the second half.. I shook peoples hands.. “who the fack is this kid” they said.. lol.. Torres nilo remembered me.. Crap game.. great experience.