Post-match: Friendly match: Colombia-Chile 29 marzo in Holland

Si, si estoy de acuerdo con ti ! como si jugadores no podian jugar mal un solo partido. Bueno, me recuerdo haber criticado a Aguilar durante eliminatorias, y ahora estoy contento si me equivoqué, pero en mismo tiempo no tenia el nivel que tiene ahora. Lo que me impresiono frente a Ecuador fue su serenidad, su tranquilidad, a causa de su experiencia en Espana segun mi opinion (mismo si para mi es un poco responsable sobre el primer gol chileno, no parando con un compañero, no he visto quien, a un Chileno en el inicio de la ataca roja). Quizas hoy no seria estupidamente explusado frente a Venezuela.
Otra cosa son las consecuencias sacadas por gente sobre partidos amistosos... : una derrota o un mal partido (partido de preparacion !!!)y se pide la salida de Bolillo ! Pero creo que en este foro, mismo si juzgamos rapidamente como todo el mundo, estamos bastante medidos (se dice ?) y prudentes ; sobre articulos en otros paginas web como Colombia Futbol, si lees comentarios...
Y que decir de algunos periodistas, quienes cambian de posicion cada semana ; aqui en Francia, si Marseille gana dos partidos consecutivos, es el futur campeon, si pierde dos, es la crisis... Otro ejemplo, como Malouda jugo mal frente a Luxembourgo y Croatia, se pide la pregunta de su continuacion en seleccion, mientras que tres meses detras, cada uno le chupaba (imaginacion !) por sus actuaciones con Chelsea...

En el fondo estoy de acuerdo con Haddexx en cuanto al Bolillo y a la idoneidad de insistir con Yepes y algunos llamados cuestionables. Mas alla de eso, creo que los ultimos 3 partidos han sido diferentes y que esta encontrando su equipo de cara a Copa America. Creo que si se sostiene este grupo pueden hacerse cosas interesantes.

Sin embargo, creo que la Copa America es el momento de evaluar su desempeño y si es el caso de corregir el rumbo antes de la eliminatoria. No creo que debamos esperar a una debacle en el 2012 o 2013 para tomar medidas que se vieron desde el 2010 o 2009 (o 2002?)

dapip completely agree bro but if we get rid of Bolillo the fed is just going to give the job to Maturana, Lara, Rueda or some other clown in their stupid little buddy system.

Our club teams and fed do not think outside the box. Bolillo is def doing better than I thought he has a slightly more offensive team then many give him credit for but he is getting OUT COACHED EVERY GAME !!!!!! This is fine if Leonel or Osorio were our coaches and this was their 1st NT coaching experience but this guy has Fing over 20 years of experience !!!!

Maybe its I am becoming like alot of you and am ok with us just getting by but at least we are playing nice attacking futbol and hopefully the goals will come when it counts. We at least create chances now which we haven't done in about 4 years.

He just can never ever take out or not start Guarin, Falcao or Armero unless one of them is injured or its a big club game and we are playing a meanless friendly.

IN that event - LEONEL ALVAREZ ESTA esperando el puesto
era la logica desde la eleccion de asistente....

dedicate a ver FPC- para poder entender la idiosincrasia de la seleccion y nuestros jugadores

That is serious fobia...what is it with S.American coaches and flying? El Bichi also hates it and usually drugs himself before a flight.

recuerdos de bielsa tambien con el mismo tema.....

dicen que es sus dias de dt en el atlas de jalisco, preferia moverse en autobus, de cidudad a ciudad.

ahora suena opara el sevilla de la LIGA

que viajesito!

uhhhhhhhhhhhh a pasado muchas veces
antes de que alcanzara status de superestrella o extraterrestre como vos le decis a los crack que te gustan: para el mundial juvenil de canada, la pelea de la aFA con el barca fue grande, gano el club que lo solto solo dias/hras antes de la inaguracion - sin dejarlo entrenar con el grp en ezeiza.

solo hace dos dias, decian que por contrato tenia que aparecer en el partido vs costa rica, y que paso, batista se invento un cuento chino y lo dejo por fuera, ahora todos los ticos lloran por el echo de no verlo jugar, pero en los analisis de prensa y tv dicen que fue el barcelona que les limito los minutos del astro rosarino.

otro ejemplo, reciente? el caso de guardado con la seleccion majicana, en la coruna lo soltaron con indicaciones precisas y minutos a jugar, el cuerpo tecnico, estubo de acuerdo para mantener una futura buena relacion con el club.

los clubes pagan mucho..... para que en un par de amistosos, se les joda el tipo que mueve la taquilla! se vienen finales y partidos decisivos en abril...OJO

Good observation...I think this is mainly Sanchez though, he does this a lot for Udinese as well...it's like he can't keep himself. I'll attribute it to the eagerness of his youth... he better learn to control himself or it may land him into trouble if he does that in our area.

We have a bunch of young overrated players, among them: (not saying they are bad players but not as good as everybody thinks they are)

Ospina, Zapata, Sanchez, Dayro, Gio, Wason, Quintero.

And a bunch of underperformers that need to get a replacement fast:

Yepes, Perea, Montano, Ramos, Rodallega, John Valencia

So, what is left?


---------------------?????-----------------------
Zuniga-----????????--------??????????-----Armero
????????-----Guarin-----------Aguilar-----????????
---------------------Falcao----------------------

We need to bring, Aquivaldo and somebody else to the defense.
Pino, LF Mosquera, James, and maybe Chara and Anchico to the mid
Jackson to play upfront, period!

We don't have more...

como asi ?


no lo viste en los ultimos dos partidos del america de Bimbo? hasta autogol metio, fue convocado y de alguna manera se lesiono antes de viajar a madrid..

no se como, pero, hasta mejor que no fue!
ya estan bien fijos los 11 inicialistas, con la duda de la temporada, a la que hacen alusion los periodistas y entrenadores en distans ciudadas de colombia: el enganche o el manejador del medio campo y sus tiempos!

that's still on par with LAP - right? I've seen LAP make some horrible mistakes at Atletico, yet he still gets called up...

but at least Aquivaldo and LAP play regularly which is more than what can be said about Yepes.

Club form and NT form have little relationship for the most part.

club fitness is essential to NT fitness which is my concern about Yepes and Cuadrado who hardly play at the club level...it doesn't show as much when NT's play 1 or 2 games in a short time span but you'll see it copa america time...

AMARANTO OR AQUIVALDO; Colombia-Chile 29 marzo in Holland

you may be right

I have seen the constant starter from alt. de madrid made mistakes too, HE ALSO shows flashes of speed and good placement on the back line.

yet, HE seems like, he has all THE confidence of the coaching staff.

problem is we do not have any CBs. As much as everyone loves Zapata he has not been a rock or given a reason to start him over anyone else. They are all around the same as to regards to how good they are. Yepes lack speed and his age is getting there did you see how 1/4 of his hair is white for the CHile game?

Zapata and Perea makes stupid mistakes but Zapata being 7 years younger you can almost overlook these things, as well as it seems he tries to hard to get his spot.I remember Guarins 1st game in yellow he got red carded in like 5 minutes for being too eager to do well. LAP to me is a lot like IRC which is a decent defender that is basically 90% speed is what gives him their skill but I don't remember Cordoba giving up PKs like LAP does.

Yepes was on point against spain b/c he played in 4 consecutive games at the club level for AC milan prior to Colombia-Spain - check out his game log this season (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/player/_/id/85039/mario-yepes?cc=5901)

Cuadrado does show good performances at the NT level, but if he were a regular for udinese, i promise you he would be our starting RW for us.

the point is why has the door been nearly shut for players like aquivaldo and zapata and the chances both received in the past few years has not been enough.

i just find it very inconsistent when certain players get opportunities with the NT with little to no club fitness/form while others are the opposite.

i know every player is a case by case basis, but i would have preferred to see zapata in more friendlies under bolillo just to get the mistakes out of his system early on and build some experience.

Yepes is good but it's really scary to have someone like that as the last man, he should always have someone fast behind him to cover his butt. Against spain he was the man of the match, but in the last 2 friendlies he was awful. He committed a penalty against ecuador that never was awarded, and he was way too slow against the chileans. And he's no bet for the future, as stated before, he will NOT become any faster...

If we're gonna change him for the qualifiers we might as well start looking now and not waste all these friendles and then start looking for a replacement DURING the qualifiers.

I think people have a biased towards Yepes's age. I didn't think he was "god awful" Both Perea and Zapata played worst defense I've seen in our Nacional team.


If it were up to me, I say Aquilvaldo and Yepes.

I say Medina-Zapata

Look LAP sucks and is 31, Aquivaldo isn't all that great and 30..... guys are over time to look at the future and stop fing on our future giving these guys of a lost generation more chances.

Yepes, Perea, Cordoba don't play on their clubs they have no business playing on the NT.

Perea and Cordoba both aren't playing well in their clubs, and both haven't showed much leadership in Yellow. They are just expendable CB's.

Yes you are right Yepes hasn't been getting consistant playing time due to the face Milan defenders are now fully healed and much faster than him. I'm not denying that Yepes is a slow and old defender. That is very much true, but in football you don't always look on the physical traits, obviously with Perea and Cordoba cases they are fast but aren't a great footballer that they once were(more of Cordoba than Perea) however Yepes for some reason keeps improving on his game, he marks well and leads well, while lost most of his speed, he still shows the quality defender that we need and been consistant. Everyone keeps flaming him because he's old or the little time on Milan squad he gets. Which is understandable, but some people play better on a NT than on a club which Yepes has always been.

The case with Aquilvaldo, is that he's playing average at best with America, but from what I see when puts on Yellow is that he's a great marker and very strong at the CB. I love seeing this guy play because reminds me of the old school defenders, just get down and never give up on defense. Something that I lack seeing Zapata.

Zapata case, I love the dude, he's young and talented, but most of you guys are overating his performances with Udinese, he's hasn't had a wonderful season in 3 seasons there. Yes he's been consistant, but he clearly shows that he needs to improve, which is why the Arsenal's, the Juventus, and Real's haven't bought him since there has been rumors since 2007. If anything he's been below average in the Serie A, and has 2 out every 6 or 7 game where he shows excellence. I won't give up on him, but in Yellow he's either the 2nd starting CB, or a super sub CB.

Then it comes down to our other CB's, we have the FPC players, then we have the FMF & MLS CB's, then we have Arboleda but he's becoming Polish apparently. So what does that give us?