Fire Warzycha, 2013 Edition (Vol. 1)

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  1. foozer

    foozer Member

    Dec 19, 2005
    Indy
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If I remember correctly, we played 34 games both seasons so PPG from 2011 to 2012 probably had a small increase. It does little to state how bad we were before Higuain and Arrieta, to a slightly lesser extent, arrived. If not for those two and Gruenebaum's heroics, this team would have been out of the playoffs by September (pure speculation...I have nothing to back that statement up). If you were to compare PPG over Warzycha's tenure, though, you'd find a notable decrease since 2009.
     
  2. eboe

    eboe Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    May 23, 2006
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought that last season had 2 more games than 2011... I do understand the possible higuain arietta bump but even with having more points I still dont think we were that good
     
  3. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quick note that I'm not going to get into this particular thread. Everyone's mind is pretty much made up and won't change. It's why I've stayed out of the scandal thread and have stayed away from the politics thread recently. Don't get me wrong--it's fine to have those threads. But it's not worth my time and angst. If it's *really* important, you can PM me. And I think, looking at the first 30 or so posts in this thread, that I'm making a wise move.
     
  4. cam5fc

    cam5fc Member+

    Sep 23, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Was there really a point in posting this?

    FIRE RW!
     
  5. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    I think it is difficult for anyone on the fence, those who see the other side of the argument, or those who actually see potential in the last couple of months, to post in this thread without a torrent of counter arguments that have been hashed and rehashed over and over.

    However, when it comes to comparing point totals in x season against point totals in y season, it does devalue the other "subjective" aspects of the RW out compaing. Now, admittedly, I am sure most of us are looking forward to next season. Simply for the reason that the Higuain and Arrieta partnership scores goals and provides entertainment. However, that does not discount from the fact that, who knows what RW will do next season. He may bench Arrieta for Schoenfeld because he works hard in training, or he may rest higuain because we are playing seattle away from home.

    We may also forget the curious subbing patterns, and the dubious tactical formations. Or the fact the crew always start the second half flat, or we play too defensively, or we roll over and let LA, NYRB, Seattle etc rub our bellies (and take three points) at home.

    Above all else. We may have got more points this season than any other but it still does not hide the fact we missed the playoffs.
     
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  6. BrickStreetBoy

    Oct 3, 2012
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I would consider benching Higuain at Seattle, why risk your best player on their miserable excuse for a playing surface?
     
  7. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    good point Robert ;) ...I kid, you do have a good point.
     
  8. cam5fc

    cam5fc Member+

    Sep 23, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The real question is whether or not he's good enough to play when we visit RSL
     
  9. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bench the whole team; why risk injury?
     
  10. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is Seattle really a poor playing surface? First I heard of that.
     
  11. NC Soccer United

    NC Soccer United BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jan 25, 2011
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    I am scratching my head too. Haven't heard any career killing stories at the CLink.
     
  12. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not as bad a surface as NC Soccer, at any rate.;)
     
  13. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it has more to do with just being Turf than anything. Haven't several "older" players sat out games there (GBS) due to not wanting to run on it.
     
  14. BrickStreetBoy

    Oct 3, 2012
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Didn't O'Rourke and Milo get injured there this past season? I know O'Rourke did for sure
     
  15. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    whoa, where did the ************** come from? I don't remember swearing.
     
  16. crewfan_in_columbus

    Feb 25, 2001
    Columbus is home
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So here it is..... everything is trending down from 2009 - 2012 except for GA/Game which is trending up. Regardless, they are all going down. The only upspot is that PPG rose this year over last, but is still a downward trend from 2009 until now.


    Year PPG GF/Game GA/Game GD/Game Goal Diff
    2009 1.63 1.37 1.03 0.33 10
    2010 1.67 1.33 1.13 0.20 6
    2011 1.38 1.26 1.29 -0.03 -1
    2012 1.53 1.29 1.29 0.00 0
     
  17. cam5fc

    cam5fc Member+

    Sep 23, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who **************** knows.

    Then again, your name would potentially imply a minimum of 2 personalities, one of which could insert a ***************** or a **************** or maybe even a ***************** here or there without the knowledge of the slightly more Sane_Derek.
     
  18. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You make an excellent ************ point.
     
  19. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    Another trend.

    SS
    Playoff
    Playoff Play In
    No Playoff
    .
    .
    ************
     
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  20. cam5fc

    cam5fc Member+

    Sep 23, 2008
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No matter what kind of statistical analysis you present, this is a bottom line representation of where you stand as a club.
     
  21. crewfan_in_columbus

    Feb 25, 2001
    Columbus is home
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    TRUTH.
     
  22. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  23. Swellster

    Swellster Member

    Jun 26, 2011
    Dallas
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We clearly need to practice harder and show more responsibility.
     
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  24. Psycho_Derek

    Psycho_Derek Member+

    Nov 18, 2005
    turn that frown upside down?
     
  25. ZipSix

    ZipSix BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 20, 2000
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

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