Fire ownership: We'd spend Keane money for right DP

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  1. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

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    We could probably fill up Soldier field for the rest of the season if they sign him and hype it up on Univision, Telemundo, etc.
     
  2. LocoGueroFutobolista

    Apr 18, 2004
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    Chicago Fire
    I will go to my grave believing and claiming that they did not hype it up enough with Blanco.
     
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  3. thnkucomeagain

    thnkucomeagain Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
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    At least the team could sell out a game or two... I agree though
     
  4. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
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    Chicago Fire
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    United States
    Because Dollar Menu thought that his name alone was enough. It was the first year 2007, if he just put a little effort into to we could of sold out every game during Blanco's era.

    That would take putting some money towards marketing to the team, which he did not.
     
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  5. LocoGueroFutobolista

    Apr 18, 2004
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    Chicago Fire
    I couldn't have said it better myself. The player that sells himself doesn't really do the selling. The only person Andi has spent money, effort, and time promoting is himself. Oh, and Castillo.
     
  6. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    I agree, Blanco was a legend and incredibly marketable. That said, I do think they tried, at first. He was everywhere after joining the Fire in 2007, commercials, Best Buys, etc. Part of the problem was that it was so far into the season that we unable to fully utilize him. They should have done a regular "countdown" during the first half of the season.

    After 2007, there was not much.

    I also don't think they promoted Hristo enough, either.
     
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  7. seamuslush

    seamuslush Member+

    Jun 18, 2005
    Chicago
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    I remember this Hristo spot...vaguely. Can't remember how often I saw it outside of game broadcasts.



    I do remember seeing the fantastic Fireside chat spots from '99 often enough to think they must have made at least a mid size buy on some UHF stations.
     
  8. Sparky98

    Sparky98 Member

    Jun 8, 2007

    Granted you are talking about Hristo, but that seems to be part of the problem. They run commercials for the Fire DURING Fire telecasts. How about spend some money and advertise during EPL games on NBC Sports or UEFA Champions League games on ESPN? Or even during other sporting events. Sure it costs money, but don't trumpet spending so much money on advertising if it doesn't reach the intended audience - that is, if Andy and his lemmings KNOW who their audience is.
     
  9. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Of course they do. They put up a billboard in Wrigleyville! They own the conversation!

    Winning a World Series once a century is HARD.
     
  10. LocoGueroFutobolista

    Apr 18, 2004
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    Actually, it's really easy. You don't even have to try, just let time go by..... almost 8 years and counting since our last meaningful trophy! :)
     
  11. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
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    Nov 13, 2000
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    Club América
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Bring back Blanco if only to take 90' penalties.
     
  12. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    Yes, they had Hristo in several commercials...and it was glorious.

    But, like Blanco, they could have done so much more.
     
  13. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I don't see Yallop sticking around once it's clear he doesn't have the resources he needs to succeed. This club simply isn't going to function successfully until we have an owner willing to properly invest.
     
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  14. iron81

    iron81 Member+

    Jan 6, 2011
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    Understanding that you're probably drunk or tired at 3:30 AM, this tells me Yallop will be around a long time as he has ample resources at his disposal.
     
  15. thnkucomeagain

    thnkucomeagain Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
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    Ample resources = no name shit South American DPs who can't even run for 10 minutes straight
     
  16. iron81

    iron81 Member+

    Jan 6, 2011
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    I don't recall if you read those arguments, but I've established that the resources were available, we just hadn't had any luck attracting a Keane Money worthy player. Give it time, it'll happen.
     
  17. thnkucomeagain

    thnkucomeagain Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
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    We've had nothing but time. Sitting the playoffs out almost every year gives you a lot of time to think...
     
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  18. milicz

    milicz Member+

    Dec 2, 2001
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    Poland
    Liar. You linked to 6 rumors all of which claimed sums much lower than Keane money was offered for the players.
     
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  19. thnkucomeagain

    thnkucomeagain Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
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    Nery Castillo has more eyebrow than Keane, so Nery > Keane
     
  20. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    #2420 Chris M., Apr 20, 2014
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    Give it time? You mean if Frank Klopas now identifies a player he wants, he should bring him to Andycakes? You see Lron, the people who he supposedly admonished to "bring him a Keane-like player" are all long gone now. They had time, and in your warped little reality, they apparently couldn't find a player (even if other teams had no difficulty doing that). So, the next time you have a quiet little moment with Andycakes, I would suggest that you float this idea by him. Re-state his pledge. Tell us all that he sat down with Frank 2.0 and told him to bring him a Keane or a DeFoe or a Bradley like player and that he will use HIS OWN MONEY to bring that player to the Fire. I'm sure we would all be comforted if the owner of the Fire repeated that pledge now that he has new people out there scouring the globe for that oh so elusive player.
     
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  21. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    I think you mean Yallop but the point still stands. I'm guessing Andrew isn't going to pay for a Keane money DP and I'm guessing Yallop wouldn't stick it out without the resources he wants so he can succeed.
     
  22. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    No, I meant Klopas. That is who Andy supposedly made the quote to. Klopas is the one that I have heard completely unconfirmed rumors that did bring Andy at least one player like that. Lron said, "give it time. It will happen." No it won't unless Klopas is still bringing players to Andy even if he now works for Montreal. So, my point is, Andycakes . . . renew your pledge. Have a public town hall meeting where you get right up in Frank Yallop's grill and say, "bring me a player like Bradely or DeFoe. I'll pay for it!"
     
  23. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    United States
    Well he did buy the team at the end of 2007 (September). So I would imagine most marketing for 2007 was under the previous ownership.

    2008 forwards, yes that would be on Andy.


    Well that would be on Andy, sure AEG was looking to sell, so they invested on Blanco and marketing, then after they sold the team, Andrew did not invest in the marketing budget.
     
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  24. SixKick

    SixKick Moderator
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    Nov 13, 2000
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    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    WARNING. I am responding to an iron81 post, so scroll through if you wish to ignore.


    Nobody is as unlucky as you claim Hauptman is. At least before when you were making the "unlucky" argument about our on-the-field results, it was somewhat plausible. We missed the playoffs on a tie-breaker and hit the woodwork countless times. I would argue that we finished right about where you should expect based on our roster (either barely in or barely out), but saying we were unlucky was at least defensible.

    But now you're no longer talking about the whimsical bounces of the ball. You're talking about human interactions and closing deals. "Luck" is no longer involved. Do you think account men or people in sales can get away with saying they were just unlucky when they can't close deals? It has been years since Hauptman spoke of Keane Money, and there have been no results despite "dozens" of attempts. That's not bad luck, that's being bad at your job.

    Put that coffee down, Andy. Coffee is for closers.
     
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  25. Keeper49

    Keeper49 Member

    Chicago Fire, AC Milan
    United States
    Mar 28, 2000
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    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've been following this team since day one been to every home game but two and have witnessed how well the club was run in the early years. I've read most of your posts and have concluded that you really believe what you type but do you seriously expect those of us that have been here this long to believe this? Maybe your crap is bought by those only following the team for 3 or 4 years. Save it.
     
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