Fire John Hackworth [R]

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  1. Yo-Joe

    Yo-Joe Member

    Oct 20, 2007
    Montco/Philadelphia, USA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    The Moyes firing is a good example of a club demanding excellence and results. With the off season acquisitions I think the Union were trying to raise the club's standards for achievement, and it seems clear the manager is impeding progress. Hack must go.
     
  2. derek750

    derek750 Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Moyes firing is interesting for a couple reasons.

    1. You can view it as a short-sighted decision that is likely to disrupt the stability of Manchester United for a few seasons. The new manager will want to bring in his own players and will apparently not even have a year to demonstrate that his approach can be successful.

    2. It also suggests the importance of finding the right manager when you do have an opening. This is why the decision to retain Hackworth (instead of conducting a real search for a Nowak replacement) was a huge mistake. Hackworth wasn't promoted for his excellence; he just happened to be in the right place at the right time.
     
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  3. LINETRASH

    LINETRASH Member+

    Jul 19, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1203 LINETRASH, Apr 22, 2014
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    Or the Union get 2 points for DRAWS...

    Haven't you heard....the goal is to finish 5th. We are only the Philadelphia Union!! We would all be better off knowing our station, after all, its a lovely park and we are tied for 5th!! What more do you people want!??!
     
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  4. drewuke

    drewuke Member+

    Jul 19, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I can't tell which half is the good one. :confused:
     
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  5. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ooh, maybe we can bring Freddy Adu back to replicate his 40+ minute Mother's Day performance against RBNY.
     
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  6. LINETRASH

    LINETRASH Member+

    Jul 19, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Easier said than done....might have to ask Aduesque where the hell he is..Adu has too much soccer IQ for the planet
     
  7. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
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    Philadelphia Union
  8. CallMeMed

    CallMeMed Member

    Mar 29, 2010
    137
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    Philadelphia Union
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    United States
    That is terrifying. I'm not entirely certain why it's in this thread, but I really want to unsee it.
     
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  9. Dills

    Dills Moderator
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    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Erm, I don't know whether to rep this post, or deleted it from the annals of BigSoccer.
     
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  10. aztec21bas

    aztec21bas BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 24, 2009
    Mullica Hill, NJ
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For the hundreth time, it's like say Beetlegeuse three times. Say it enough and he will re-appear, and NOBODY wants that!

    Please, delete it. I want to delete it from the annals of my brain, but I can't unsee it.
     
  11. ericlfd

    ericlfd Member+

    Nov 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Deleting it only makes it stronger. It can never die.
     
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  12. Ascalz

    Ascalz BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 18, 2010
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    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Jonathan Tannenwald put this on twitter

    If Hackworth did indeed utter this and does indeed believe this, he pretty much fails on every conceivable level as a head coach. Shots on goal is a very important stat because you know, if you have zero, you don't have any goals to your team's credit.

    It also means your team either through lack of midfield creativity or forwards inability to finish that your team failed to generate any meaningful attack. If the opposing GK can pretty much sit down and have lunch on the field and not have to worry about you threatening his net than yes, that is a problem.

    I swear to god, Hackworth's utterances as the season goes on only further serve to piss me off more and more.
     
  13. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clearly Hackworth is relying on the other team to score boatloads of OGs.
     
  14. lopezzzz

    lopezzzz Member

    Jun 28, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Jonathan Tannenwald‏@thegoalkeeper18 mins
    Hackworth: “Aaron Wheeler has emerged… [and] has earned that right to be the first-choice center back."
     
  15. Dills

    Dills Moderator
    Staff Member

    Philadelphia Union
    United States
    Jun 6, 2006
    Southampton|PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Per Zeitlin:

    "Minutes after saying shots are an overrated stat, Hackworth says the Union 'have to pull the trigger a little more'."
     
  16. UnionDues

    UnionDues Member+

    Aug 16, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Will Sack can this bumbling fool before the season is completely lost?
     
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  17. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]
     
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  18. LINETRASH

    LINETRASH Member+

    Jul 19, 2011
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    Sunderland AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey Sak....there goes your manager. Must be proud as a peacock!
     
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  19. Phillyspur

    Phillyspur Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Mar 18, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Cheese Fries :(
     
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  20. Doop

    Doop Member+

    Sep 28, 2010
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who knew that the Everton friendly was two coaches who were the mirror image of each other tactically. Thank god for the World Cup Break.
     
  21. ScottyMac26

    ScottyMac26 Member+

    Jan 13, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Thanks Daniel, nice meeting you too.

    My questions:
    Have you ever seen a coach try to force players into learning different positions as much as this one?

    Do you ever secretly wish the FO wouldn't make a deal that shoots ticket sales in the foot? Just once?

    Wherever they found Nogueira, can they go back and find players at LB,CB and F?

    Why did it take five seasons to get Tennents on tap? Nogs and that beer are the season highlights.

    Good seats though, thanks for the help.
    Scott

    Sent from my iPad

    On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:54 AM, "Wilson, Daniel" <dwilson@philadelphiaunion.com> wrote:

    Hey Scott,

    Great meeting yourself on Saturday. If you have any questions during the season let me know!

    Kind Regards,

    Daniel
    Account Executive | Philadelphia Union|Keystone Sports and Entertainment
    2501 Seaport Drive| Suite 500| Chester, PA


    Ya'll might think I'd just tweet or forum my displeasure. I put my mouth where I sent my money.
     
  22. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Or, might he try to rely on buttloads of own-goals?

     
  23. ScottyMac26

    ScottyMac26 Member+

    Jan 13, 2012
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Some fun stats. We get caught up in formations and like to see if we can help unlock how this team can reach their offensive juggernaut potential. When Hack said yesterday,"... I don’t think it’s a good one and it’s shots, or shots on goal. It’s a terrible stat for soccer." (http://www.phillysoccerpage.net/201...eo-of-john-hackworths-weekly-press-conference ) , I shook my head. And you guys did fantastic youtubing internetting of butt goals, frankly as effective as Hack's approach.

    So I took a look at MLS' weak stats page to see what would be a good stat. Besides the obvious of points and wins, how about goals? The Union have played 9 matches and scored 8 times. That is an average of 1.13 goals per match. Some quick excel work shows that puts the Union at 13th in terms of scoring rate. That tracks to their current Supporter Shield standing too.

    Despite Hack's assertion, shots are important. Shots on Goal are too. The ability to put it on frame increases the likelihood of scoring. The Union put 28.87% of their shots on target. Good enough for 17th. Yikes.

    They score 9.28% of the time they shoot, which is 12th in THE MLS. Again, maybe I've got correlation without causation, but that seems to track with results. So what? What does this mean? Well, shooting more would help. Shooting more accurately would help a lot more.

    So all we need now are players who shoot. Where they at?
     
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  24. D-Wall

    D-Wall Member

    Nov 18, 2002
    Philly
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hackworth putting so much value into Wheeler is mystifying. It is like he needs to show us rubes that he know how to convert players to defense. Now we have a truly talented AM in Pedro Riberio getting converted to CB in Harrisburg. Why?

    Especially for a team that relies on crosses at the end of a game.

    Also, can someone from the media please ask why our forwards are coached to stay so stationary? What are Hackworth's thoughts about that? He can tout a possession oriented game plan, but what truly makes teams like Barca, Madrid and Bayern so dangerous is that they have movement in the final third that opens up passing lanes and/or shot opportunities. With their Midfielders running to join the play. Passing and switching the field is fine, but the lack of movement by the forwards is a coaching issue that needs to be corrected. When casual fans see it in the stands, there is a problem here. This is something that Hackworth should be challenged on his views.

    The other piece, is if you are going to counter-attack, put someone up top with some wheels. It was atrocious to watch Conner receive what could have been a breakaway situation and have him pull it back against Houston. If anything, drive for the goal and make Houston have to make a risky play (like earning a second red card for a tackle from behind). Then again, I think Hackworth's mind would be blown if we were up two men...
     
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  25. TonyClarkDOOP

    TonyClarkDOOP Member+

    Jun 18, 2010
    Oxford, United Kingdom
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    $10 says a new manager would not even have Wheeler in the 18 every week. Klopas, Arena, Vermes all probably sit at home and say, "If my team isn't getting results, they are not playing well, but I'm doing everything right.... could be worse, I could be an idiot like John though."
     
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