FIFA U-17 Women`s World Cup 2012

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  1. Lusankya

    Lusankya Moderator Staff Member

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    Next year's FIFA U-17 Women's World Cup will be in Azerbaijan.

    Currently no other teams besides the hosts are qualified, but we will know the three participants from Asia in a few weeks.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_AFC_U-16_Women's_Championship

    FIFA decide to change the Access List again, because they really didn't like some of the results (0-9 and 1-10 losses for African and North American participants). These results made something very clear. We need less teams from....


    Europe!

    Yep, you heard right. Europe obviously deserves less teams than every other confederation besides OFC. This is the new allocation (Source):

    Hosts: 1
    AFC: 3
    CAF: 3
    CONCACAF: 3
    CONMEBOL: 3
    OFC: 1
    UEFA: 2


  2. shlj

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    Don't forget the host is considered as "European" so in a kind of manipulated way it gives Europe a 3rd berth...
  3. Samuel Vimes

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    :( that is dire. CONCACAF & CONMEBOL with 38 % of the teams and 13 % of the world population.

    Just force the two to merge already.

    Not to mention Azerbaijan still hosting this despite being thrown out of Euro 2011 for breaking nationality rules.
  4. Lusankya

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    I know, but usually the host berth is independent of the other berths. Just look at the allocation of berths used during all the other FIFA world cups (for men, women and youth teams).

    e.g. U-20 WWC
    2008 Host Chile: CONMEBOL 2+1 teams, UEFA 4 teams
    2010 Host Germany: CONMEBOL 2 teams, UEFA 4+1 teams

    or U-17 WC (boys)
    2009 Host Nigeria: CAF 4+1 teams, CONCACAF 4 teams
    2011 Host Mexico: CAF 4 teams, CONCACAF 4+1 teams


  5. ceezmad

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    Yes sadly Concacaf and Conmebol do not deserve 3 spots, I mean I am glad we do (Concacaf) but UEAF should have 4+1 and Concacaf 2, Conmebol 2.
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    i feel bad for Azerbaijan. They won't even be able to compete with anyone, even if a team like Chile, Cameroon or Costa Rica are drawn into their group.
  7. ceezmad

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    Didn't South Africa beat the French in 2010?


    BTW FIFA has not updated their website for the 2012 cup, they still have T&T as their main page for the U17 tournament.


    In Concacaf, the CFU (Caribean part of Concacaf) had their eliminations this past two months.

    http://www.concacaf.com/page/WUnder17s/Schedule/0,,12813,00.html
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    CAF U-17 qualifiers start in November.

    PRELIMINARY ROUND - 11/26/2011 & 12/10/2011
    Kenya vs. Mozambique

    FIRST ROUND - 1/21/2012 & 2/4/2012
    Botswana vs. Zambia
    Kenya/Mozambique winner vs. Nigeria
    Gambia vs. Sierra Leone
    Guinea vs. Tunisia
    Nambia vs. South Africa
    Cameroon vs. Ghana

    FINAL ROUND - 3/10/2012 & 3/24/2012
    Botswana/Zambia winner vs. Kenya/Mozambique/Nigeria winner
    Gambia/Sierra Leone winner vs. Guinea/Tunisia winner
    Nambia/South Africa winner vs. Cameroon/Ghana winner

    the winners of the final round will advance to the U-17 WWC in Azerbaijan. This draw favors Tunisia to advance, yet will deny either Cameroon, Ghana or South Africa.
  9. Lusankya

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    CAF always uses very poor qualifying formats. Straight knock out rounds aren't the best way to determine the best teams. They should have used at least one group stage.

    Currently I like the AFC format the best, because they have one big final group stage. Then CONCACAF, CONMEBOL and UEFA all have pretty similiar formats, which are good, too. However depending on the number of berths the best two teams might face and eliminate each other in the semifinals.

    I already see a U-17 Spain - U-17 Germany semifinal this season. :rolleyes:
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    Re: FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup 2012

    Yeah, I read that too.. Congratulations to them..
  12. Lusankya

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    Re: FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup 2012

    I find this to be strange. Why again in North America and not in Africa or Asia?
    There were official bids from Ghana, Uzbekistan and UAE.

    Edit: I also took a look at the U-17 men's world cups, when they only played with 16 teams. And apparently these were the only world cups, where the host slot was not a separated slot. They always adjusted the access list to have 3 teams from each confederation but the OFC.

    Strangely enough they didn't do this during the first U-17 WWC.

    I still think it's an unfair spot allocation. It works well for the men (however they don't use this flexible host spot since they expanded the tournament to 24 teams) but not so well for the women.
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    Re: FIFA U-20 Women's World Cup 2012

    Like everything, I will assume it had to do with $$$$$$$.
  14. Lusankya

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    But we're talking about women's football. I doubt money is the issue here.
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    Perhaps it has to do with team USA not making it to the last U-17 WWC?
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    Huh:confused: I have to agree with Lusankya in saying that it comes across as a very weak decision to give it once again to a CONCACAF nation. With the strength and progress of east Asia, and the glimmer of respectability coming out of west Africa within the youth categories, you would think it was a perfect moment to give their confederations a youth WWC.

    I mean take a look at the AFC. The AFC over the last three FIFA women's tournaments have had ridiculous amounts of success. They had all 3 of their qualified U-17 teams finish in the finals top four, seeing a 3rd place finish with Korea Rep in the U-20's, all topped off with Japan becoming the new senior world champions. Why not reward that primarily east Asian progress by giving central or west Asia a chance to showcase and elevate the sport within their regions too?
  17. Lusankya

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    Seeding pots for the second qualifying round of the U-17 EURO are announced:

    Pot A: Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, France
    Pot B:
    Sweden, Spain (holders), Norway, England
    Pot C: Belgium, Czech Republic, Denmark, Republic of Ireland
    Pot D: Serbia, Iceland, Poland, Finland


    So with some bad luck the only two winners of the competition could already eliminate each other before the final tournament.
  18. Lusankya

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    Finally FIFA.com updated the U-17 WWC HP:
    http://www.fifa.com/u17womensworldcup/
    (still no sign of the U-20 WWC 2012)

    They also revealed the yet nameless mascott.
    The mascot is an Asian looking girl with a ponytail, who wears a Buka. :)
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    AFC qualifiers:

    Japan,North Korea,China.

    China is the first time.:D:D
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    You can see short highlights here
  22. Lusankya

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    Yeah, good to see a new team from the AFC. South Korea won't be able to defend their title, but they were quite poor during the qualifying so they kind of deserve it.
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    First round, first leg results in African qualifying

    Botswana 1:5 Zambia
    Kenya 0:2 Nigeria
    Gambia 3:0 Sierra Leone
    Guinea withdrew (Tunisia advance)
    Namibia 1:1 South Africa
    Cameroon 0:1 Ghana

    Nigeria, Tunisia, and Ghana look very likely to be the African qualifiers.
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    Fisrt round, second leg results in African qualifying

    Nigeria 3:0 Kenya (5:0 aggregate)

    South Africa 5:0 Namibia (6:1 aggregate)

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