EU's "Final" Offer to Iran

The EU, in coordination with the Bush adminstration, has provided Iran its package of so-called incentives and guarantees to end the nuclear stalemate with Iran. Since the offer falls short of Iran's minimum conditions, its seem unlikely that Iran would accept this proposal. Indeed, Iran has already indicated it will reject the offer, although it will give its formal response in two days.

If you were in Iran's shoes, would you accept the proposal? The following excepts from this report summarizes the key terms.

I think Iran should thank Allah that Bush was dumb enough to stretch the US military to its breaking point by invading Iraq thus crippling America's ability to deal firmly with Tehran. If he didn't do that, the only words the Iranians would be seeing are Boeing and Lockheed-Martin.

Is Regis Philben on the negotiating team?

"Is that your final answer?"

I kept an open mind about this proposal until I could read it. I have now read the actual summary of the text of the proposal published by the Tehran Times.

Iran should not only reject the offer, it should completely end all these negotiations and prepare itself for whatever the EU/US want to throw its way. The proposals are simply insulting.

It pains me that my country has become so weak that a bunch of hypocrites in the EU give themselves the right to set conditions for Iran, while compromising Iran's rights to appease the US. Honestly, Iran should have never entered in these bogus negotiations in the first place. The EU was not the real negotiating party anyway, as they have shown to be a bunch of lackeys.

If the "carrots" are economically really profitable they should accept, if not they shouldn't.

I mean if those "carrots" can favour greatly a sort of economic boom.

If IM started a thread or made a post NOT about or mentioning Iran, how would we know?

Yes, well that's exactly what they are.

What's wrong with the proposal?

It doesn't let them build nukes and use them to destroy Israel.

oh.

If they want a damn nuclear weapon that bad, why don't we just send 'em one?

We could have it delivered to the center of Tehran in, say, 24 hours or so.

That'll learn 'em!!

Couched in diplomatic language, it offers virtually nothing except vague guarantees and promises, all subject to a host of as yet not agreed to terms. In return, Iran is supposed to continue its suspension of uranium enrichment and conversion and play this "smokes and mirrors" game with the EU.

The final deal arising from the framework envisioned by this package, in the meantime, would begin committing Iran to scrapping its uranium conversion, uranium enrichment, and heavy water reactor. All on the basis of procedural promises without even any concrete quid pro quo that Iran would receive the nuclear fuel supposedly being promised or the light water reactors which supposedly the EU would agree to build for Iran.

More fundamentally, why should Iran agree to any of this? Iran is building its own heavy water reactor in Arak. Iran also built its UCF plant in Isfahan and the enrichment plant in Natanz by itself. Who is the EU or anyone else to tell Iran that it has to instead rely on the EU to supply Iran with nuclear fuel or build (light water) reactors for Iran?

The "international community", at most, can decide that they don't want to help Iran. Fine. Honestly, I don't give a hoot about Bushehr. Indeed, except as an ultimately ineffective means to "bribe" Russia and give it an incentive not to go along with the pressures on Iran, I don't think Iran would have even tolerated all the delays by Russia in finishing this project. If they want to put any conditions on anything, it can be on something they are building or doing in Iran. Not something that is not their business to begin with and which is authorized by the NPT!

Put simply, the offer is from a bully to a country it thinks it can bully around. I never liked bullies and I still don't.

So this is a trick by the EU to force Iran not to accept a negociated settlement thus paving the way for a justified attack by the US.

You left off the neo-cons, Lidknuks, and Zionists....tsk tsk tsk.....

No. This is the US offer to Iran. The EU are just messengers. Their role has been to make the US offer couched in more "diplomatic language". Otherwise, it is the same old demand by the US that Iran has rejected out of hand many times.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-08-05-voa46.cfm

You've got to be kidding me.

As IM chose not to answer when I asked him a while back, could someone tell me why he chooses to live in the US?

Actually, he's moving back to Iran permanently in a couple weeks.

Although I'm an American citizen (I was born in the US), I plan on doing the same as soon as I have my degree in hand. "It's about time" is right .

If ever Iran accepted to enter into any binding legal agreements or treaties, those would have to be ratified by both the parliament and the Guardians Council. In that context, here is an article quoting someone I generally would not wish to quote too often. Jannati, who was delivering the Friday prayer in Tehran, is also the head of the Guardians Council.

They say even a broken clock is right twice a day. This is one of those times for him.

http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-236/0508050466154436.htm

Yeah cause it is so terrible here in the US right?

My family and I have had terrible experiences here, and have faced an array of bureaucratic harassment over the years. That being said, Americans [as a people] are a very hospitable bunch, and for that reason, I'm not willing to extrapolate our victimization to anything more concrete. Afterall, it's a personal decision, and in this climate, I would personally feel more safe in Iran.