How does everyone think our Euro 2012 group will ban out? I can see it coming down to our goal difference comapred with France. France v England - Draw 1-1 Sweden v Ukraine - Draw 1-2 France v Ukraine - France win 2-0 Sweden v England - England win 1-0 (maybe sneak a 2-0) France v Sweden - France win 1-0 England v Ukraine - England win 2-0 That means the group will look like P-W-D-L-GD-F-A-PTS 1 - England 3-2-1-0- 3- 4- 1- 7 1 - France 3-2-1-0- 3- 4- 1- 7 3 - Ukraine 3-1-1-1- 3- 5- 2- 4 4 - Sweden 3-0-1-2- 2- 3- 1- 1 Looks like we could end up drawing lots to see who is 1st and 2nd with us and France.
You have a strange concept of "draw" tbh. Also your table concerning Sweden and the Ukraine is completely screwed up. I'm thinking a lot will be decided on the first match day, anyone that comes out of that with a win is looking good. Drawing of lots really ain't going to be needed. Below are the two deciders that are used before drawing of lots is considered. Good news for you I guess as you had a higher ranking at the time of the draw for the Euro Finals (you in pot 2 and France in pot 4).
if pearce is in charge who knows, this group has a couple of teams in england and france who could win or lose on any given day, a host who will have loads of support and probably biased refs and an unknown commodity in sweden who have a quality striker and talented midfielder in eriksen and we usually draw vs them... i woul;dn't be suprised if we don't qualify tbh
if pearce is in charge who knows, this group has a couple of teams in england and france who could win or lose on any given day, a host who will have loads of support and probably biased refs and an unknown commodity in sweden who have a quality striker and talented midfielder in eriksen and we usually draw vs them... i woul;dn't be suprised if we don't qualify tbh
if you mean Eriksen from Ajax ,he is Danish. If Pearce is on charge it will be a repeat of Euro 92. 2 draws and 1 loss. If we get the disastrous news that Pearce is getting the full job im seeing a repeat of the 92/94 era .
If history is anything to go by, both Sweden and Ukraine will prove themselves as just a good team as England. I expect a tight group where luck will determine who qualifies
pearce has managed a win every 3 games in his career. we havent got a hope in hell of qualifying, even with the worst sweden team ive ever seen and a no hoper in the form of ukraine. actually, his career stats are a clear indicator of how we might fare. a win, a defeat and a draw. the loss v france, the win v sweden. and the draw with ukraine which eliminates us, just like with the u21s, a gutless , total lack of any invention, irritating waste of a shot at glory draw v ukraine in the final match. if we can get hodgeson we could have a respectable tournament, maybe even a half decent one. ditto i suppose for redknapp if he takes the job, even though i dont like him, the fact that the players do and he speaks the same langauge as them(thick), should be enough for a qf spot and a chance at having some fun at the tournament.
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Nice prediction but I can't see Ukraine not going through to the next stage. I am an English guy who travels to Ukraine quite a lot. They will be tough to beat on their own turf and the supporters are really passionate. I predict England and Ukraine to qualify through to the quarter finals.
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with hodgeson there im optimistic. this squad is quarter final/semi final material under the right coach. he gets value for money usually. all we have to do is to avoid defeat to france. everything goes into this objective. i am confident against sweden, who are in really bad shape. i also think that the ukraine game could already be a dead rubber. which is also dangerous, but preferable to play a side that has already been defeated twice at home and is eliminated than a side that has shown any ability leading up to that game. i dont rate frances chances to get a comfy victory against either sweden or ukraine, as they have shown under blanc to struggle more against minnows than big sides. i think france will be favourites against england, and i think we will be made to suffer in this match. but a draw is by no means out of the question, which gives us the chance to top the group. which is our next objective as we have to avoid spain. if we can come top, we have a game v probably italy, who had a good qualifying program but no one would say going into the match that italy has any advantage over england, and possibly vice versa. so, top the group and we have a 50.50 chance of the semi. also, the semi will most likely be holland, who are a fine side, but again, nothing out of this world. they scraped over the line v an england managed by stuart pearce. so im not impressed. holland should also pick up a few injuries to key players i would imagine, unless they are back on the nadrilone like in 2000.
France has had very consistent form since the world cup and they beat England in a friendly in 2010, so we shouldn't underestimate them. And Sweden and Ukraine will be two tough games also, so it will be a good achievement if Roy can get us out of that group
