The Old Man and the Sea: Eugene Starikov at Chornomorets

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  1. avechkin8

    avechkin8 Member

    May 9, 2009
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    6(foreign players)+5 and they want to make it 5+6 next year. In division 1 if my memory serves me correctly only 3 foreign allowed.

    Zenit reserve team became a champions last year but only 1 player from reserve team was given a chance to play preseason games.

    They want to find a "starlet". They think some of the older reserve players like Starikov - tweener's, too "old" to make a jump etc.
     
  2. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Well, we need to welcome Starikov back to US then :)
     
  3. avechkin8

    avechkin8 Member

    May 9, 2009
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    He has no caps for any youth US nt's and he can get russian citizenship easily. I'm sure he was told already that he need russian passport if he want to be a pro.

    Don't get me wrong some teams in RPL has foreign prospects playing in reserve team but these prospects came with hype and price tag.
     
  4. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Are his parents Russians (not Ukrainians or Belorussians)? Where was he born?
    If he was born in Soviet Union to parents living in RSFSR, he has to have Russian citizenship automatically, when then he doesn't have it?
    I'm not familiar with current Russian immigration/naturalization laws, but his US citizenship could be an obstacle?
     
  5. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Apparently born in Odessa in the (former) Soviet Union, https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showpost.php?p=17163424&postcount=14
     
  6. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Doesn't the RPL have a different "foreigner" rule for the CIS citizens?
     
  7. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Hi is not CIS citizen either, and Ukraine has much stricter rules on dual citizenship than Mother Russia.
     
  8. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    If he was born in Odessa, wouldn't he be a Ukrainian citizen by birthright?
     
  9. pirozhok

    pirozhok Member+

    United States
    Jul 20, 2007
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    He has US citizenship now, and AFAIK Ukraine doesn't allow dual.
     
  10. Diegan

    Diegan Member+

    San Diego FC
    United States
    Sep 18, 2008
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Wasn't that a problem with some Ukrainian player in Belgium? He took a Belgian passport or something in order to make it easier to move around Europe but then to his surprise the Ukrainian government revoked his citizenship.
     
  11. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Off a few Google queries, apparently the Ukrainians will give citizenship to those born on its territory .. but will revoke it if someone attains a citizenship of another nation.

    I assume this is all part of the Ukraine-Russia politics but Zhenya is probably SOL for rght now.
     
  12. avechkin8

    avechkin8 Member

    May 9, 2009
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Correct, his name is Oleg Yaschuk.
     
  13. avechkin8

    avechkin8 Member

    May 9, 2009
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    RPL want to redo their own rules right now, so that now anybody who can't play for Russian NT is foreign player... unless (very funny invention) he is willing to write a letter where he refuse to ever play for his NT and send it to his football federation.
     
  14. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Why...then the trickle of South Americans will dry up. Do they really want to make their league homogeneous? I mean there is a thin line between protecting your national team and hurting them by not exposing them to different styles of play.
     
  15. sidefootsitter

    sidefootsitter Member+

    Oct 14, 2004
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Now, that sounds like Russia I know and ... not so love.

    Of course, FIFA would probably ban this practice, if it's ever implemented.
     
  16. avechkin8

    avechkin8 Member

    May 9, 2009
    Club:
    Zenit St Petersburg
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Starikov was loaned to FC Tom' for a year.

    http://www.sports.ru/football/69483678.html

    Awesome opportunity for Starikov to prove his worth at RPL level. Valeri Nepomniachi (current Tom' manager) is a well-respected coach with a lot of experience from all over the world. He is a very soft (in a good way) "player's" coach.

    Man Starikov clearly did a hell of job in his time with Zenit reserve team, cuz a lot of older players with better resume and "right" passport from Zenit and other teams reserves still don't have any interest even from 1 division let alone RPL sides.
     
  17. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Very exciting development. I hope we can see Eugene in the RPL, especially since they will have 2 games/week shown on ESPN360.

    Here's the official announcement from Zenit website.http://www.fc-zenit.ru/main/news/51631.html
     
  18. m vann

    m vann Moderator
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    Colorado Rapids, Celtic FC, & Louisville City
    Sep 10, 2002
    Denver, CO
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    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Fantastic news. It really is. I've tried, best I can, to keep up to date with his Zenit adventure. Something about Eugene's story sparked my interest. It's true he played exceptionally well for their reserves. He didn't play much in the beginning but eventually he played, played well, and bagged goals. I don't know too much about FC Tom Tomsk but do know they had a top 10 finish last season. I also believe Omsk, the city, is in Siberia and might be the most eastern club in the RPL. Nonetheless, I think the is a great opportunity for Eugene. Tom Tomsk appears to have a youngish squad and in need of a little firepower. Hopefully Eugene can help.
     
  19. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    It's actually Tomsk. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomsk And if Luch Energia Vladivostok is still in the RPL then it is the most Eastern club in the RPL. However, Tomsk is pretty far out.

    Thair website roster only lists three players as forwards, though the other guy on loan from Zenit, Kornilenko, is an attacker too. And he's a first-teamer.
     
  20. narko

    narko New Member

    Jul 16, 2007
    North Carolina
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    What are the chances this guy ever suits up for the USA?
     
  21. Kool Herc

    Kool Herc Member

    Oct 17, 2008
    Dallas
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Strong to quite strong
     
  22. narko

    narko New Member

    Jul 16, 2007
    North Carolina
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Seriously? I mean, I've never seen him on any youth teams... or really even mentioned anywhere but here.
     
  23. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    I don't know if he has been contacted by the USSF for anything, but he is a US citizen and is likely to play i n the RPL (~8th best league in Europe) as a 21 year old.
     
  24. soccerusa517

    soccerusa517 Member+

    Jun 23, 2009
    Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    Which is why our youth system allows so many to slip underneath the cracks.
     
  25. Kool Herc

    Kool Herc Member

    Oct 17, 2008
    Dallas
    Club:
    Leeds United AFC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Eugene Starikov at Zenit St Petersburg

    nah sorrry I was quoting Meet the Parents :eek:
     

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