You mean Thompson, not Welbeck, I think. I think he was lucky not to see a second yellow, but Webb hadn't imposed himself much and there was a lot of give and take prior to the rugby tackle, so it's hard to second guess Webb for being judicious and relatively consistent. Not sure the attacker (Evra?) was getting the ball first when Sktrel fouled him. There seemed to be a lot of doubt there. It's one of those that, maybe, is a red more often than not in an international match, but you don't see it given as regularly in domestic leagues like England. I don't think the goal-scoring opportunity was "obvious." I also like how Webb, evidently, used his AR to get the best decision possible.
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Backpass called at 0:26 in Brentford-Chelsea FA Cup 4th round. I suppose the decision wasn't particularly hard, it's just I hadn't seen it called in a high level game in forever. http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vide...=v5:share:sharepermalink:&from=sharepermalink
What I found incredibly interesting about this situation was that the goalkeeper was not booked for holding onto the ball and wasting time once the call was made. The whistle blew and he literally just hugged the ball and refused to let it go as the Brantford player tried to set up for a quick restart (you don't see it on this video, but it happened) That seems like the easiest decision in the world. Goalkeeper's have been burned before on this by giving up the ball in situations like this, so I know it's in their best interest to just hold the ball and take the caution. However, you still have to give the caution! The lack of caution proved particularly interesting because the goalkeeper got a caution in the second half (1:17 of this video) for conceding a penalty.
I probably have one of the most liberal views on DOGSO, but I thought it was a gutsy and correct decision not to go red for the foul there. However, I still can't believe he wasn't booked for blatantly and deliberately holding the ball after he passback call. That one seemed so simple.
I don't like that yellow -- it does seem to be for conceding a penalty rather than for a cautionable foul . . .
Eh, I don't know. He sent him flying with a pretty forceful tackle. I think reckless is easily justifiable. I think in our rush to make sure we're not doing the "try to sell our penalty with a yellow card," move we sometimes forget that a late tackle from a keeper can be pretty reckless, even when done with the arms. Imagine if the tackle had been that late with the legs? We'd be having a debate about SFP, right? I think judging a keeper foul this late as reckless is correct. Now, was it tactical? No. If that's the justification, I'm with you.
Ha. I realized that's what you likely meant once I posted. Oh well. I mean, we all know that's 100% incorrect. But, in the grand scheme of myths and mistakes that commentators make, it's really not that high up the list. At least it means they know part of the Laws, they just don't know one of the rare exceptions to the Law that they know.
I had to explain that particular goal to a Chelsea supporter this morning. I also think that type of call has had serious discussions attached to it several times either on this board or soc-ref. There are referees who THINK that it should be dogso even though the exception is printed right there in the 'ol book.
First, some catch-up: WEEK 23 Liverpool : Norwich - OLIVER West Ham : QPR - WEBB Wigan : Sunderland - TAYLOR Manchester City : Fulham - MOSS Newcastle : Reading - MARRINER Swansea : Stoke City - DEAN WBA : Aston Villa - PROBERT Chelsea : Arsenal - ATKINSON Tottenham : Manchester United - FOY Southampton : Everton - SWARBRICK Arsenal : West Ham - MARRINER WEEK 24 Aston Villa : Newcastle - DEAN Sunderland : Swansea - MARRINER Stoke City : Wigan - JONES QPR : Manchester City - DOWD Arsenal : Liverpool - FRIEND Everton : WBA - OLIVER Norwich : Tottenham - SWARBRICK Reading : Chelsea - HALSEY Manchester United : Southampton - MASON Fulham : West Ham - FOY
And, this week: WEEK 25 QPR : Norwich - MOSS Newcastle : Chelsea - WEBB Wigan : Southampton - MARRINER Everton : Aston Villa - JONES West Ham : Swansea - PROBERT Reading : Sunderland - MASON Arsenal : Stoke City - FOY Fulham : Manchester United - FRIEND WBA : Tottenham - CLATTENBURG Manchester City : Liverpool - TAYLOR
West Brom v Spurs, 2 min. into 2nd half. No mistaking it and ref was only 10 yds. away and coming towards the pair.
'pool-Citeh, about 29'. Clattering tackle, man down, Spoiler (Move your mouse to the spoiler area to reveal the content) Show Spoiler Hide Spoiler 'pool plays on ... goal
And right after, he jumped straight up and goes over to the AR and starts yelling. Tells you all you need to know about if it was the right decision or not, imo
WEEK 26 Tottenham : Newcastle - DOWD Norwich : Fulham - WEBB Sunderland : Arsenal - TAYLOR Stoke : Reading - OLIVER Swansea : QPR - SWARBRICK Chelsea : Wigan - DEAN Southampton : Manchester City - ATKINSON Aston Villa : West Ham - CLATTENBURG Manchester United : Everton - HALSEY Liverpool : WBA - MOSS
Think Dowd missed a pretty clear SFP in 89th minute or so of Spurs/Newcastle.Full studs on ankle/lower shin.
Maybe it's just me but Taylor seemed either to be in the way or way too far from play most of the game. His positioning bugged me.
As an Everton supporter, i was very upset at seeing Halsey's name listed for the match at Old T. I think he's beyond past his prime. but, he had little to do, and had a decent game. Still, he has to be in his last season.