England Senior Squad-general Discussions Thread

I dunno. Isn't that the same opinion that most of us here hold? He is English I believe, or at least living over here.

 

I just think posting a solitary one line post saying we've got no chance, with no further introduction or comment, probably isn't the way to make friends and influence people as a new member.

Hey! Maybe I'm just old fashioned...

Well, I am, obviously, but...

 

Its so funny how so many people think England will get crushed yet we are hard to break down and in Uruguay's point of view we are favorites to advance. Same with Costa Rica.

 

Well, hang on a minute, we don't often get 'crushed'', as you put it. We had a 4-1 loss to Germany in 2010 but that wasn't helped by this...



What was noticeable about that, (apart from the 'goal' itself I mean), was just after when the krauts knock the ball forwards and we have a 1 v 1 with a German forward against JT, (I think it was).

That's pretty much how we spent the rest of the match, with us chasing the game throwing men forward trying to get back on terms.

There's NOTHING more depressing than watching Gareth Barry trying to run back towards his own goal, chasing Podolski, Khedira and Ozil. I mean, he's not exactly Usain Bolt, is he

If we'd scored then, just before half-time, and pegged them back to 2-2, (after having been down 2-0), the match could have been very different.

Well, at the very least it would probably only have been a 4-2 loss, wouldn't it. Don't really call that being 'crushed'.

If we can sit back and soak up pressure we HAVE got people who can score goals, bursting forward.

The problem is we lack ball retention in midfield and, in that heat and in that atmosphere, that makes the job harder than it should be.

 

I do not recall the last time England failed to make it out of the group.....and England have been in some tough ones before.

 

Depends if you mean major tournies including the euros or just WC's. If you do, probably turnip-heads go back in '88 or did we fail in 2000 under Keegan? IIRC didn't Germany also fail as well that time?

Don't remember the last WC though.

Well, when we've got there... y'know

 

Keegan in 2000 - Phil Neville v Romania and all that. Everyone was so convinced that as we finally beat the Germans again then everything was ok - Forced them to look at themselves and their development programmes whilst we just trundled along.

 

World Cups....England always make it out of the group...

 

For those living in the U.S. or not the UK, you can watch the brilliant documentary by Daniel Gordon "Hillsborough". It is an ESPN 30 for 30 film, which is part of a 8 film soccer series in the build up for the World Cup. I presume most of you know what is a about because of the title. However for those who don't know it is about the 96 fans that lost their lives in the worst stadium disaster in British history and how they are seeking and seemed justice for the 96 who perished.

Truly outstanding film.

 

England will get out of the group. You are better than Uruguay in every position apart from striker and your strikers are above average. Italy will be harder as they are better than you in almost all positions.

 

I hope you are right mostly. I'm really worried about Candreva and Abate on the right side. They are very fast and skillful. However we could sneak a goal on them.

In regards to Uruguay we do have more overall talent than they do.

 

Italy will slip up against a team they should hammer....they always do....in the qualification group for France '98 Italy won at Wembly, drew England in Rome and still lost the group to England....because they could not beat the teams they should have beaten...happens to them all the time....the reason they are not seeded this time around. England WILL make it out of this group for the simple reason that England will beat Costa Rica and the Italians/Uruguyans may not.

 

Yeah, that's true, isn't it.

Maybe it's a case of them having difficulty playing against a side that sits back, is well organised and soaks up pressure, because that's what THEY normally do.

 

The statement is not wrong, I also think so, italy worth in the count, which is the European Cup two years ago, italy able to break, some games in the prediction italy will lose, they could prove to their game. (prediksi sepak bola)

 

I can see the Italy game ending in a draw. It's the Uruguay game that worries me more. We should have enough to beat them but Suarez can change the game in a second for them and given how we've struggled in our last 3 games (Germany, Chile, Denmark) I'm worried.

 

I'm more worried about Uruguay... Italy are good, but nowhere near as good as they are making out on their forums lol. If we stop Pirlo, then I rate our chances to get a draw or a narrow win against Italy.

Our defence will need to have a massive game to stop Suarez and Cavani, though. Those two are far far better than anything Italy have in attack, and I can see us having problems keeping them out.

 

Agreed! We could have had a harder group but, tbh, we could also probably have had an easier one.

Italy and Uruguay won't be easy games. It just depends which England side turns up.

Don't know much about the current Costa Rican set-up but my guess is, if we can't beat them, we don't deserve to go through anyway.

 

I wouldn't be surprised to see if England, Italy, and Uruguay end up each having 5 points. They all beat Costa Rica and drawing each other. It will just come down to goal difference, which doesn't usually favor England because we are almost always never ruthless in big tournaments.

 

A possibility I s'pose but, who would you leave behind?

 

Yes.

 

It shows the lack of depth we have in this country when a player is being suggested for the World Cup squad after scoring only 3 goals. Its pleasing to see him score and lets hope he continues. To be fair there has been a lot of talk about Timo Werner making the Germany squad and he's only scored 4 goals in 30 games this season.