England Senior Squad-General Discussions Thread

Buying players without giving them a thorough medical is also somewhat foolish and risky. Arsenal did that with Yossi and Arteta. Their own Doctor has confirmed it.

 

worked out better for us than buying henderson, downing and carrol though lol

rvp better win pfa player

 

Holt will give away 10 trillion fouls with continental referees.

Even Crouch does, but he at least has the technical side to his game too. Holt is so rugged.

 

Most overrated player, he isnt even the one man standing this year for a poor team that got him the award last time. What does Carrick have to do to get any recognition, win the league perhaps or CL or be the only consistent midfielder for arguably the best side in the country for 5 years or the only midfielder.
Replace Parker with Livermore in Spurs team and nobody will notice.

 

carrick is for some reason always overlooked

much better season/player than limited scotty "pashunit" parker

 

Has anyone of you seen Jack Colback play a few times, impressed me with calm style of football and also filled nicely at LB when required.

 

Good player, but not quite that quality in my opinion.

I was amazed how fell he filled in at left back in that City(?) game I think.

 

Also, as much as Carrick has been good this season, I really don't think he was pulling up any trees in the season or two before. In fact, he was linked with a move to Blackburn in the summer I believe.

 

No, he wasn't. Jaysus, Xavi called him United's most important player before the CL final because he was.

 

Disagree, he was linked in the press with moves away, to Everton too I think.

United could definitely do with a creative midfielder slightly further up the pitch and Carrick at 29, logically in his prime was not high on the agenda back in the summer. If he could have been bait for either Modric or possibly Rodwell, I think he would have gone.

And if he was truly as important as that, for the best team in England, he would have easily displaced Gareth Barry in the England team! No doubt he's a good player, but he has looked better to me recently and is definitely not as good as the 'most consistent midfielder for five years' suggests.

 

Press, Seriously? He is our only midfielder standing after 5 years, Hargreaves has come and gone, has played with a former winger in Giggs and widely known cant tackle Scholes and Fletcher without too many problems in a two man midfield as a DM.

Playing for English team is hardly a criteria these days.

 

Because he doesnt play up the field, he is our DM and has been for 5 years and we not only boast trophies in these but excellent defensive records in a 2 man midfield and no way we have ever ever thought about selling him.

 

I think constant speculation about a transfer is a fair barometer, without a player actually going what is there?

Hargreaves injured, Fletcher possibly more important up until his illness and Scholes is 2x the player of Carrick despite being unable to tackle.

'Left standing' is completely unfair, especially as there is no way United would be able to recoup an 18 million outlay on him.

Parker is far better at breaking up play if playing with another CM. Carrick is just a continuity type midfielder.

 

You dont need to run around like headless chicken to break play which Parker does, when he was fit Hargreaves played Rm Scholes and Carrick played midfield. Fletcher is no way near Carrick in importance. United fans should probably know dont you think.

Continous speculation ? Transfer rumors ? Atleast say something concrete.

 

Now there was constant speculation about a transfer

Seriously stop making stuff up. He made 44 appearances last season, along with Scholes retiring at the start of the season and no replacements being bought, why would anyone even make up such a rumor?

 

I think I made that clear in my post? What concrete thing can I give you?

How about in the 2009-10 season when Chelsea won the league, Carrick only featured twice in the last nine when United were desperate for wins, which is partly WHY he was linked with a move away?

Secondly Hargreaves is a victim of his versatility (and went straight into the England team in that position over Carrick). How can the England team not be an accurate portrayal of a players ability if 3/4 different managers have picked players over him?

And thirdly, I also think someone who has seen Carrick play in the flesh can have an opinion on him. Knowing United fans as I do across my country/ the world, I do not think they are should be any more knowledgeable about a particular player than anyone else.

 

Most tackles in the premier league this season. Scott Parker.

What do you mean you don't need to run around like headless chicken?

 

I'm really not sure. In my opinion, Carrick is a 'poor man's Xavi' type player. He'll use the ball well but not offer much else, even in terms of assists (miserly two this season).

The Spain friendly perfectly encapsulated how a transitional England, unfortunately, will be successful in the near future. We are not going to tiki-taka the top teams in the world off the pitch, but we are able to outfight and out battle teams and have enough quality through the likes of Rooney to be at threat at the right end.

That said, if SCHOLES were to come out of a retirement it would be a whole different thing, as having someone who is in the 'world class' bracket of playing a pass (especially in a 4-3-3 with two quick wingers (oxlade, johnson(?) either side of a forward)) it would be alright!