England Senior Squad-General Discussions Thread

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  1. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    #1176 sinner78, Mar 16, 2012
    They seem to have the concept that they "have a plan" . The only 'plan' they have is to send a squad to Poland. They seem to think that all we have to do is show up and everything falls into place!

    We dont have any tactical plans for the opposition or any tactics of our own. Its the equivalent of saying that a student can show up to an exam with no preparation and pass !! complete and utter stupidity. If Pearce is in charge you can bet that he will have no clue whatsoever on how to prepare for specific opponent threats. In fact ,how could anyone prepare when they are getting the job on about 2 weeks notice?
     
  2. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
    #1177 BarryfromEastenders, Mar 16, 2012
    At clubs and other national teams you have coaches and analysts in numerous specific roles like studying and gathering information on the opposition, specific coaching roles, tactical plans etc. All we've got is Pearce going round the grounds watching players wearing different scarves and hats :D
     
  3. BarryfromEastenders

    BarryfromEastenders Moderator
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    Jul 6, 2008
    #1178 BarryfromEastenders, Mar 16, 2012
    It's looking like it's going to be Pearce and he's already 'preparing' in his own idiotic way. I can't see why anyone would take it with the way the FA are acting.
     
  4. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    #1179 sinner78, Mar 16, 2012
    Thats how you succeed at the top level. Get smart people to analyse the opposition teams. Thats how you see a team like Germany in 2010 smash the argies 4-0 even though you could argue that few of their side would even get in the argie squad .They had a specific plan that was on the money .

    In English football you get people in the scouting roles ,but too many times its just someones "mate" who is out of work and needs a job. Pearce has probably got a "mate" watching the French team !! they will formulate some amazing gameplan to beat them .
     
  5. Naughtius Maximus

    Naughtius Maximus Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    #1180 Naughtius Maximus, Mar 16, 2012
    Face it baz, it's gonna be Pearce mate :( Everything's pointing that way.

    If they DID opt for even a half decent choice they'd set the situation up so there's no WAY he can succeed with no time to prepare and probably no games left.

    I'm just hoping that Pearce's 'up and at em' team-talk can get the players at it and they'll perform DESPITE the way he sets the team out. Not holding out much hope though :(
     
  6. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    #1181 sinner78, Mar 16, 2012
    I can forsee the senior players taking the piss if Pearce is in charge like they did with McClaren. At least the players have made it known they would be motivated to play for Redknapp. Pearce might have commanded abit of respect with youngsters ,but the senior players will see right though him when they have worked with all the worlds top managers . Just look how senior players at Chelsea seemed to stop playing for villas boas as another example.

    Pearce would lead us to a first round exit that would be very damaging. International football is already getting damaged by more and more games being taken off the calendar .
     
  7. BarryfromEastenders

    BarryfromEastenders Moderator
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    Jul 6, 2008
    #1182 BarryfromEastenders, Mar 16, 2012
    The thing about Pearce's style is interesting because at least it has more logic at senior level. This win at all costs stuff and so on. Not that he's even good at that, especially against the best teams.

    There are alot of things that would annoy me about this happening. Mainly the issues of how he's made so many errors and never learned from them. His preparation for the U21 tournaments has been getting worse everytime and he still gets roles and promotions.

    It also proves (What we already know) how aimless the planning is that someone like Pearce is even being considered. We had a government review into football after the WC and we have now gone from paying people millions to do the job and also hiring numerous staff for him to someone so terrible like Pearce getting the job and having free reign. The very same people made both decisions and don't even have to explain themselves.

    I would just find it extremely disheartening because even if in the worst case scenario Pearce flops extremely badly and gets some blame he will still go back and do his U21 job. I don't see how anything is going to change and we are going to give a job of that stature to a man with no redeemable qualities for it.
     
  8. BarryfromEastenders

    BarryfromEastenders Moderator
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    Jul 6, 2008
    #1183 BarryfromEastenders, Mar 16, 2012
    Here are some quotes from Rafa Benitez -

    http://www.football.co.uk/england/b...tml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    Now Pearce has never shown any intentions of implementing any genuine idea or philosophy and his system is always to force in his preferred options and then create the formation.
     
  9. drgonzo

    drgonzo Member+

    Jun 1, 2011
    Club:
    San Diego Flash
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1184 drgonzo, Mar 16, 2012
    Just dropped by. Know I'm an outsider but you boys got tons of great talent at virtually all positions (We'd kill for most of your "B" side players). Pearce can't be that awful that you guys wouldn't be able to get out of the group stages.
     
  10. Joelzinho

    Joelzinho Member

    May 23, 2005
    Montreal!
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    #1185 Joelzinho, Mar 16, 2012
    AVB is basically out of the picture too isn't he? Considering he had problems with Lampard and Terry @ Chelsea.
     
  11. lotdungan24

    lotdungan24 New Member

    Mar 16, 2012
    #1186 lotdungan24, Mar 16, 2012
    Yes!
     
  12. fernb8

    fernb8 Member+
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    Aug 12, 2002
    #1187 fernb8, Mar 16, 2012
    I would say it was a lot more than that

    but this isnt really the forum for that discussion
     
  13. slnaclubvn

    slnaclubvn Member

    Mar 2, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    #1188 slnaclubvn, Mar 16, 2012
    Now, team England still haven't select coach yet. If choice isn't Harry Redknapp, maybe should select foreign coach.

    Opportunity of team will not good.
     
  14. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    #1189 three lions, Mar 16, 2012
    You don't know Pearce then..
     
  15. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    #1190 three lions, Mar 16, 2012
    If Pearce does end up being the one, expect dodgy call-ups from his past. The Frazier Campbell, Muamba, Mancienne types..
     
  16. mo0.

    mo0. Member

    Apr 2, 2011
    Club:
    Swindon Town FC
    #1191 mo0., Mar 17, 2012
    Barry to start every match. perpetual 442, or if a 433 doesn't work and we go 2-0 down, revert to 442.
     
  17. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    #1192 sinner78, Mar 17, 2012
    In a group that contains

    Sweden
    France
    Ukraine

    Pearce would lead us to 2 draws and a loss. He is a throwback to the likes of graham Taylor. Even worse than McClaren .
     
  18. LondonAFC

    LondonAFC Member

    Mar 17, 2012
    #1193 LondonAFC, Mar 17, 2012
    One part of me thinks it will be a good move to go for Pearce because of his aggression, patriotism etc then the other part of me realises he's a complete idiot and is exactly what's wrong with football in this country.
     
  19. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    #1194 sinner78, Mar 17, 2012
    Someone like Mourinho would harness aggression into some good tactics.
    Pearce would be like a world war 1 army general who commands the troops to go over the top of the trenches to certain death .
     
  20. The Guardian

    The Guardian Member+

    Jul 31, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    #1195 The Guardian, Mar 17, 2012
    What is the latest on Wilshere's return? He was due back soon wasn't he or did he have another problem. Anyway what is the score?
     
  21. three lions

    three lions Member

    Apr 2, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    #1196 three lions, Mar 18, 2012
    Best wishes to Fabrice Muamba and his family. Last i heard, he was still in critical condition. I pray he makes it through this..
     
  22. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    #1197 sinner78, Mar 18, 2012
    say he survives ,his career is likely over.
     
  23. Naughtius Maximus

    Naughtius Maximus Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    #1198 Naughtius Maximus, Mar 18, 2012
    Well, true, but that's a pretty small matter all things considered.

    They're just talking about it on the TV atm and a few people have said these things happen from time to time. Wasn't there a fella in Spain it happened to? Didn't make it IIRC. :(
     
  24. sinner78

    sinner78 BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 7, 2001
    #1199 sinner78, Mar 18, 2012
    well its happened afew times..
    marc vivien foe ,mikos feher ,antonio puerta ,phil o donnell .
    and also the motorcyclist marco simoncelli

    some form of cardiac arrest...
     
  25. Naughtius Maximus

    Naughtius Maximus Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    #1200 Naughtius Maximus, Mar 18, 2012
    Marc Vivien Foe was the one I was thinking of but it was at the confed cup I now see.

    Just seems bloody strange for fellas so fit to just go like that. Well, he's still here isn't he but y'know what I mean.
     
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