England national team

Yup, from equalizersoccer.com:

http://equalizersoccer.com/2013/08/20/englands-hope-powell-sacked-by-the-fa/
FA, call Tony Dicicco. Now

 

So the FA actually cares about women football .......

 

I dont know if they care, but they finally sacked her.

 

DiCicco with Kelly Smith as one of his assistants?
Maren Meinert (who applied for the Aus job) who probs feels like Neid is going nowhere soon?
Jill Ellis - an emotional 'homecoming'?
Or can John H or Pia S be tempted away from what seem like dream jobs, for two more years?
Tony Readings (Herdman-lite).
Anson Dorrance - loves everything British.

Or someone from 'closer' to home?

Come one peeps. Join in! It's open season.

 

A sensible move by the FA. Fifteen years is too long a tenure; tactics and player selection inevitably get stale with the same person in charge. The most likely scenario now is a promotion for U-19 coach Mo Marley, or maybe Emma Hayes or Laura Harvey. You have to think John Herdman would love the job, but he seems committed to Canada until the 2015 World Cup.

Hopefully this means an England recall for Lianne Sanderson, who quit the team in 2010 (at age 22) over disagreements with Powell.

 

It is not inevitably it is very hard but possible to avoid and Powell was not able to do so.

 

It should really be Mo Marley, but looking at how the English FA operates, I think an over paid foreign coach will be their typical easy option approach towards another decade of finger pointing...

 

Whomever they choose, it will be hard to squander so many resources with so little to show going forward. Not that the FA is incapable of finding another manager as weak as Powell, but it'll be a challenge, even for them.

 

Hey, that's not fair... is it...? Hope Powell was a lot of things, but weak...

We should remember that England were nowhere when she came in, and the only reason she's now deemed unworthy at all, is simply because she's helped elevate everything to new levels of expectation, where the next step has now been progressively pushed beyond what she even thought possible over a decade ago.

So while England are a good team potentially, the idea a rich FA and elevated status should equate to success, is a really lazy assessment given the relative lack of success for any England side at Euro or global levels over the past few years.

England's run to the WC quarters and Euro final Powell's pinnacle moment, but it's still going to take a another major push if England's women are to seriously compete for WWC's and Euro's, and an outsider who's only role will be working with the seniors may not be the winning ticket just yet..

 

Thank you for outlining the "not too thoughtful defense of Hope Powell." You did it very well.

However, England lone semi-final appearance in the Euros PRE-DATES Powell and England was actually AHEAD of Germany/France/Denmark/China during the 80's. England has no doubt improved by leaps and bounds during Powell's reign, but other countries (France, Denmark, Japan, Brazil) have improved far more, often with fewer resources.

I'm actually not a huge fan of being terribly negative as she's leaving, but I think there's little doubt that the England squad should be finishing better than dead last in the Euros, and I fully expect a more able leader to get the Lionesses to win knockout round games at world events.

 

I read a lot of England fans want the Canada manager. I find it curious. He is preparing a WC in 2 years with the home team. Quite a unique perspective really. Jumping the boat to take a side in transition and rebuild it rather than lead a country to a home world cup, does it make sense ?
I mean England's potential is not far superior to Canada's one really ?

 

@Batfink , Powell did nothing exceptionnal at all , England has to thank Kelly Smith's talent for their good performances in world cups and Euros . Powell never gave the Lionesses a true identity as a team , a way to play , just like her good friend (the famous ex french coach ) she was divisive , sectarian , only calling the players who she gets along with and completely ignoring the others even if they were better , treating the national team as it was her personnal squad......these are some tweets from Liverpool player and ex England international Becky Easton twitter account .
-"How if you questioned, disagreed or in anyway upset her.. you would be banished for life"
-"How she had her pool of players (aka favourites) whom she would select....despite injury, fitness, form or whether they have one leg"
-"How for some players, the criteria for central contracts was dependant on your parents income" etc....

Knowing a little bit what kind of person Easton is , I think she is not the only english player feeling this way......Powell has to go , bye bye !!

 

Well if there was one job Herdman might leave for...He actually has more resources in England who have some nice young players to build around.

 

In that case. That's a good point for him to leave. When we met Canada at the Cyprus team, they seem to have a lot of resources on the sport science side as much as England and probably more than France.

 

Now that I've finished the champagne - time to give the devil her due (as it were). When I saw England play the US in San Jose around '97 or '98 when Powell was still a player England were about as competitive as (say) S. Korea is now. England had one chance on goal (a Coulthard free-kick that clanged off the bar) and lost 5-0.
By 2011, under Powell's tenure, England had reached a point where they deservedly beat (an admittedly overconfident) US team 2-1.
This will be controversial, but I also think she probably got as much out of Kelly Smith as she could given Smith's history of injuries and off field problems. Smith wasn't exactly a bed of roses to manage.
The problem was that she was there too long. Other teams caught up and then left England in the dust (see, for all the mental fragility and choking, France) and Hopeless turned into a dictator who was never wrong and could never accept responsibility for anything.
Marley seems competent but I'd probably like to see an American coach brought in to change the squad mentality. I used to want DiCicco because he's a defensive specialist and former goalkeeper and that's probably the biggest problem area right now but I don't know that at 65 he's that motivated to take on the job or that the FA would pay him what he'd want.
Maybe one of the US college head coaches? I think they need a technician more than they need a "star".

 

I agree, England needs to work on their defense. They have a fine goalkeeper in Bardsley. But as experienced as they might be, it'a their back line of Scott, Bradley, Stoney & Houghton, that's a bit slow. Here's an example, a friendly with Sweden s week before the euro's started. They should have the momentum after scoring the first goal, but then their back 4 keep making horrendous mistakes one after another


there's talk that popular tv commentator Emma Hayes, is in line for the job. I think that would be a mistake though. The Chelsea team that she currently coaches is only in 5th(out of 8) place in the WPS. That's despite an impressive international line up that includes England's Aluko, Brazil's Esther, Sweden's Jakobsson & Japan's Ogimi(leading scorer in last year's Bundesliga???).

England should be good in offence if they only give newcomers a try; as mentioned all ready, Lianne Sanderson, Add the Swedish league's current 2nd top scorer in Jody Taylor...........and hopefully Tony Duggan can stay in the starting lineup.

 

Aluko can't finish, and I guess you missed the joke ester and maurine made of Brazil's mid-field in the Olympics.

 

Aluko is a superb forward according to Hope Powell especially with her exceptional 0% conversion rate at World Cup games in 2007 and 2011 lmao.

Hayes' Chelsea are really underachieving and developping a poor quality football.

 

I don't get Aluko. She was great with the Athletica in WPS. Where did that touch go?

 

I think you're selectively remembering the good moments . . . she was definitely in and out of form that year.

 

With 6 goals in 1o games, Aluko the top goal scorer in the WSL which she shares the lead with team mate, Jakobsson & two others. Here are highlights of her last game, Chelsea vs Liverpool. The errors by the defenders/goalkeepers are really BAD and a fair warning for anybody who wants Emma Haynes(or the Liverpool coach for that matter) as national coach



there's an un official poll for who you want as England's NT coach at the womens soccer united website that's got John Herdman leading

 

Hope Powell Derangement Syndrome is real, yo.

Anyway, I've seen a few people around the interwebs suggest Paul Riley as a possible replacement. I wonder if he's inquired about the job.

 

Oh, come on... As somebody else in here said, she was in the job for too long, but not too deep to effect positive long standing changes for the better.

She simply took England to a point beyond her own capabilities, using players that all come from a new development system she her self helped rejuvenate, at a time way before the old men of the English FA could have cared less about the wnt's needs.

Mo Marley and English female coaching in general, also become another good legacy from the improved system Powell helped create, as Marley's gone on to win Euro and club honers, that over time would eventually put her in a position to take over the England senior side, and help potentially move the players she knows best, to the next level of international football too.

So looking back, I would say as coach, I think Powell's reign reached it's peak getting her side to the '09 Euro final, but to suggest it never came with an identity is really harsh/short sighted too, when it's quite clear the English FA as a whole doesn't know what it's footballing identity should be, at a time it's still mandating all coaches play in a particular still unidentified 4-3-3ish manner, hoping to gain success....

I really do get the feeling some of these weak hindsight games are nothing more than frustrated players moaning about being left out of what was up until very recently, a rather successful time for England's ladies...