End of collective bargaining/other anti-union measures plus reactions ...

You were trying to suggest that the preponderance of minimum wage jobs isn't a structural problem but rather a lack of individual motivation to advance, and you implied that because your friend got a job at $30,000 after six years of minimum wage service to the company, Wal-Mart was doing well by its workers.

It's an incredible stretch, it's completely non-scientific, and it goes against all recent research in economics and sociology, which suggests that possibilities for advancement in these jobs are minimal at best. In a word, it's bullshit.

There might be reasonable ways to argue the position you seem to hold, but this is not even close to being one of them.

 

I wasn't implying anything but thanks for projecting.

What I did was cite an example from personal experience. if you don't agree with it being possible, I disagree because I have seen it happen.

That's a you problem.

 

I don't agree with it being possible. But I also don't agree with it being likely or common, and neither does anybody else who studies this stuff.

I have personally seen an meteoroid enter the atmosphere, split into three pieces, crash into an island on the opposite horizon, and produce a sonic boom and a cloud of smoke. Most people say they're extremely unlikely to see something like that happen, but it's an example from my personal experience so I know that meteoroids can enter the atmosphere and hit the earth. We should probably install anti-asteroid missiles every two miles across the whole country, because, hey, it's possible!

 

Now this is a legitimate point.

 

Well that is the problem people thinking that they can make a career out of a minimum wage job, they should be entry level jobs with people looking to move on to other jobs eventually.


Plus you would think that after a few years they would bump the salary up a few cents here and there.

Shit I remember in High School, I started at minimum wage and after a few months I got a 50 cent bump (Everyone got it after a certain time).

Also, I do not think Wal-Mart pays minimum wage I believe starting salary for wal-mart full time employees are above 10 bucks per hour. Their issue is they have low benefits and have a large part time force.

 

Problem is, they have very few full-time employees - they can futz with your hours to make sure you get less than 32 per week, their managers get bonuses for doing it creatively. That pushes the employee benefits responsibility from the company onto the taxpayer.

All to save you 2 and a half cents on a loaf of bread or a bottle of shampoo.

 

Even the unionized grocery workers have that problem.