Ayer escuche en la radio aqui en la USA que las eliminatorias comenzarian en Octubre 2011 y con EL MISMO CALENDARIO que las pasadas.................. No se con que razon se puede justificar eso y la unica explicacion es la barita magica que tiene Grondona y Texeira. Ademas de eso, disque la Copa America que sigue despues de Argentina 2011 sera en Mexico. Alguien mas ha escuchado algo al respecto? ....De por cierto, ojala los jugadores nuestros se llenen de orgullo propio y de verguenza al ver a las otras selecciones sudamericanas en Surafrica siendo protagonistas....Que lo usen como motivacion para la proxima Copa America e eliminatoria.......No mas DERROTAS!!!!!!!!!
https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1205060 aca estan varias opiniones al respecto solo 50 tienen sentido comun- pero solo en la primera semana de diciembre, se sabe la nota oficial de conmebol (que puede hasta de cambiar a Nicolas Leoz por el chileno que lidera la federacion de Bielsa y cia)
La Copa America 2015, tiene sede en Brasil, pero la ex mandataria chilena, Michelle Bachelet hizo gestiones con los Brasileros para traspasar la sede a Chile, debido a la gran cantidad de competencias deportivas pronto a organizar Brasil por esas fechas, como el Mundial del año anterior y los juegos ilimpicos de Rio de Janeiro el 2016.. Esta casi confirmado...
tirandole cabeza a la vaina... nos quedarán 4,5 cupos para sudamerica + brasil por ser local del mundial..
supuestamente si todos los sudamericanos pasaban a la siguiente ronda en el mundial, se mantendrian los mismos puestos de clasificacion al proximo (4.5), ya que Europa quiere quitarles un cupo, con el argumento que de Sudamerica va el 50% de sus respresentantes al mundial, una cantidad muy superior a las demas confederaciones, proporcionalmente hablando
los europeos solo tienen plata en el presente Mundial y dos o tres escandalos... pero eso es harina de otro costal si quieren otro cupo o solo .5 que miren a al continente africano tan pobre en futbol 2010
yo revise un dato interesante y llegue a esta conclusión: el ser anfitrion vease como un joker rotativo, ke le pertenece a la confederación del pais organizador del mundial. osea en el mundial 2006 hubo 5 representantes de africa y de europa 13 + el anfitrion alemania este ano hubo 5 + el anfitrion sudafrica. Y solo 13 de europa. lo que esto quiere decir es que siendo brasil el anfitrion, sudamerica conservaria el cupo ke tenia (osea 4,5) + brasil.
Y Brasil le tocaria jugar contra todos los otros equipos en Sur America? Malo palo para nosotros porque vamos mucho tiempo sin perder que se significa puntos para Colombia.
brasil seguramente no va a jugar, más por el estilo de eliminatorias, maximo utiliza la fecha como fecha fifa, ya que si se juega todo contra todos, pues siempre habrá un ekipo ke tenga ke descansar, porke son 9.. seria algo como la eliminatoria a francia 98
De acuerdo al mundial actual y al pasado.... Sudamerica ha probado que sus selecciones estan a la altura de demandar 4.5 cupos......... y como tu dices que miren a Africa por si quieren mas cupos en Europa. Pero en mi opinion, asi como esta la cosa esta bien...Los Europeos no juegan como su historia lo ha dicho y no veo que vaya a cambiar pronto.
Si la FIFA, es consecuente con sus normas, y con la oranizaciòn, Conmebol debe continuar con sus 4.5 cupos + Brasil. Dede 2002, a cada confederación, donde se organizo el mundal, se le mantubo sus cupos y se le adicióno el del equipo local. Ademas desde hace rato la FIFA, había dicho que lo mantendria, y con la actualidad de alguos grandes de europa, no creo que tengan cara para pedir algo.
ademas si miramos un poco mas alla del asunto, los euros estan como concacaf..... se llenaron de paises chiquitos con el despelote de la union sovietica, la division de checoslovakia y yugoslavia en concacaf son casi 37 miembros contando todas esas islas y centroamerica no por tener mas paises merecen mas.....en asia seria un monton de cupos. es cuestion de fuerza y BUENA representacion futbolera, pongan en el papel los paises miembros en la confederacion de oceania y estarian al nivel de Conmebol (cantidad de naciones representadas) en lo personal....me parece que los repechajess estan mandados a recoger creo por distancias geograficas, deberian tener un grp en noviembre (7 meses antes de WC) y definir en un continente los que CASI PASAN EN CADA CONFE. maximo 5 o 6 equipos y un torneo relampago, que cambiaria de continente cada edicion
I agree that it should continue with 4.5 tickets for us + Brazil. Africa had 5 places + the hosts, and all of them are now eliminated beside Ghana. Concacaf has 3.5 places, but USA and Mexico are the real NT there and Costa Rica should fight with Honduras & either T&T/Jamaica/El Salvador over the half ticket. Same with Asia, who has 4.5 tickets, like Conmebol. Why? Asia didn't do nothing is the WC until 2002, and also because the hosted the WC and Korea enjoyed some of the ref's decision. Now we have 1 African, 2 Asians and 5 South Americans in the second phase, I would say that conmebol deserves 5 ticckets + Brazil for the next WC.
SA has 10 countries in our fed..... they won't give us more than 4.5 sorry.... lets not talk BS so maybe colombia can qualify. In 2010 even if we had 6 spots we wouldn't have made it ..... so now you want 7/10 to have them? No way in hell would our current team or our 2010 WCQ team beat either the US or Mexico in a home and away tour.... think as time passes even Honduras is better than us currently. Chile beat them 1-0. They beat us 4-0, and 2-4. Honduras has beaten us almost every time they play us. Asia has alot of countries and deserves those spots, africa same Only places that don't are North America but they have 5x more countries and less spots than we do. If we merge them qualifiers would be even longer and with 4.5 + 3.5 spots..... I don't think we would qualify still unless something big happens. Brazil = Arg Uruguay/Paraguay Mexico/Chile/USA ............... Now .... maybe us if we get lucky
Arroz, usually I respect your opinions, here you just wrote so many nonsense........ First, I didn't talk about Colombia, I talked about what I think Conmebol deserves to get according to their NT's achievement. It's a god damn fact, that 5 out of 5 NT's qualified for the second round, 2 of them already in the quarter final and Brazil will meet Chile, so you can add one more, without considering Paraguay who is fav I think vs. Japan. Now, Africa sent 6 NT and only 1(!!!) advanced. Asia sent 4 and two advanced. Concacaf send 3, one didn't do nothing, didn't score a goal and 2 were already been eliminated in the second stage. This 3 confederations during the years, didn't achieve better results then the Conmebol did.....So how come africa got more tickets, Asia has the same number and Concacaf just one ticket less? The number of countries are bullshit. Oceania has more contries too, and they have only one spot for playoff. Concacaf has more countries too, and they has 1 spot less. It's nothing to do with Colombia, but if the NT of this specific confederation are doing great results, the numbers of spots must be change. Now, As for us, I agree that the last decade wasn't the best of Colombia, but it's a good thing that you didn't write that even San Marino are better then us.....Come on, get into proportion, we have very good players who succee abroad but something happens to them when they wear the yellow jersey. We are npw starting a new era under a new coach, so why don't we all wait and see how is the new NT will look before we will start to crucify? Honduras isn't better then us and in my opinion neither USA and Mexico. People must understand that SA has the most difficult qualifiers in the world!! Forget USA & Mexico, who said that Italy, France or England would succee to qualify from SA? playing in places like La Paz, Quito or Bogota? give all the Concacaf NT's to play in our group and you may realize that non of them will qualify. Put Colombia in the Concacaf group I believe we have a 90% chance to qualify. Please don't push it too much with our performance. Not the 3rd or 4th in SA, but surely not as bad as you described.....
I've been saying the same thing in so many different threads, and the response seems to be since the other confederations have more countries its ok for them to have more spots. I think thats a ludicrous statement, if you want to see a bunch of mediocre teams play football then fine have 5 african teams and 4 asians. If you want to see good games, lower the amount of teams back to 28 or lower the available spots for those two confederations. At every world cup since 1990, only 1 african passes the group stage and yet they get 5 direct spots. The absolute minimum conmebol should receive is 5 direct spots, we shouldn't have to send our 5th best team to play another set of games. The games against MEX and USA are much more competitive now, but there is no way honduras better than us.
Look at recent games against them they always win USA is better than US we would have gotten hammered by England....AND WE CAN't SCORE !!! Mexico is defiantly better than us.... you think we can Beat Italy or France??? Maybe our head to head is better against them but they are a better team. Look I am a Colombian NT fan but this shit that we are the 2nd coming of Argentina and that we just have bad luck has to stop. Every 4 years its the same thing, the worst is the people in charge don't want to change and the fans are happy with 5th place. We are a huge country with loads of talent that we are better than X/Y but looking at the last 12 years that seems like BS. Our youth talent should translate to senior level .... look at Mexico !!!
I know that you are a fan and I know you want the NT to succee unlike this AntiBolillo weirdo, but you cannot play this game "if". We cannot tell if we would win or lose Italy, France or England. First, all of them looked crap this in this WC, it's not that Mexico and the US were so good. Second, we never lost to Honduras in a crucial match, we lost one or two times in a friendly, like we won Mexico in a friendly a year ago. So we are better then mexico, right? Now as for the qualifiers thing. We are too long outside the WC but compare us to Chile, Uruguay and Paraguay, not to these Concacaf teams. This is funny to even take this confederation seriously, compare to our qualifiers. So don't count the numbers Mexico and USA qualified because it's not the same.
acabo de leer en ole.com.ar ke seguiremos con 4,5 de cupos, confirmado hoy por blatter.. el medio cupo seguira siendo disputado con concacaf