Einmal Löwe--Immer Löwe (TSV 1860 München Official Thread 09/10 I [R]

Re: KC PK Part Deaux

GD funny....too GD funny....

I have the 'differing' part down, but I am pretty sure my opinions and comments do not qualify as 'more educated'. That being said.....

No, no, no - Kenny is NOT a target forward. He looks like one because of his size, but his nose for the goal is based on his ability to create chances by taking the ball and working with his team mates (like a midfielder as you say). I don't think I am expressing this very well, but he does not play with his back to goal waiting for the ball - he likes to be more involved in the run of play, helping his team create and defend.

One thing that is certain - Kenny scores goals.

Lovin? Where did they get Lovin from? (I'm thinking of Lovin from Romania's Steaua Bucharest)

Woody - I have to give respect to you here as you obviously know what of you speak.

By the way, Kenny's younger brother, Joe, is coming along in a 2 or 3 years...

The very same, ma'am. The same.

Hope dad figures out not to take the kid to Man U right off the bat. How about another German club?

Cooper's Debut at Risk....sort of

TZ is reporting that Cooper, based on the interview response from Lienen today, may only dress out for the match.

München - Newcomer Kenny Cooper was in training on Tuesday for the first time since arriving at 1860 - "at 0300 in the morning", stated Trainer Lienen.

Many of his highly skilled talent Kenny could not show off at his long awaited first training session on the Grünwalder Strasse. Walking and passing practice was prescribed, shooting training was not on the program.

The new striker from the US could just grin and bear it. "The boy first needs time to adjust", said Ewald Lienen and further: „So early in the morning has Kenny never before in his life done. When we began it was 0300 in the morning for him…“

But woke up he did and got his first full impressions of Muenchen. The training grounds he found "phenominal", and many things were "very nice". Of his team mates, who played on Saturday against Koblenz and was his first time watching them.

Lienen: „I cannot say right now whether Kenny will be on the roster or play at all. It is my wish, natually, but it could also be that he does not. We will have to seen from day to day if everything is there. I need to observe him over the next few days.

But first and foremost is he pleased that "Cooper is here". Also many fans were at training on Tuesday to get a glimpse of the Ameircan. Said Lienen, "It is still better if the Americans come, rather than the Russians, no?" [An old German phrase from after the war regarding the preference of being liberated by a particular side]. No question the Trainer finds himself in high form. A reporter wanted to find out the name of Kenny's girlfriend. Kenny looked at Lienen and asked, "Is it a good idea to answer?“ Lienen: „I don’t think so. The next he wants to know is her telephone number.“

Re: Cooper's Debut at Risk....sort of

when are you getting me my jersey?

Re: Cooper's Debut at Risk....sort of

As Axel Rose, said, "all you need is patience....."

Re: Cooper's Debut at Risk....sort of

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Re: Cooper's Debut at Risk....sort of

I'm confused? is this a football club or a comedy troupe?

Re: Cooper's Debut at Risk....sort of

I still want to see him when Sechzig is winning 5-1 and I've got a good buzz going.

I'm going to try to get our group to chant "USA" for him.

We'll be in the lower level of the AA on the side the two teams sit on, but on the visiting club's bench side.

Dude, is that "literal translation" from an engine or are you in deep "Yoda Mode?"

And he will see that The Force is strong in this one.......

And I'll bet the girls were going wild. LOL!!

Yeah. I first heard that from my ex-wife's grandparents. He'd been captured by the Russians and somehow "liberated" from them by us.

Thanks to that, I was always OK in his book.

I thought that was pretty damned funny!!

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Now, I love Sechzig and all, but Gruenwalder Str.? "Very nice?" It's not bad, but it could surely use some polish.

And someone could stand to get rid of the ivy growing on Gruenwalder Stadion. LOL

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LOL....Lienen is a funny guy actually. He cracked a few jokes at the PK. But he can also be a real viper too.

You should chant "Kenny,Kenny...."

And yeah, you know, I find that when I need to translate stuff fast I sound more like Sgt. Schultz. Must be age. Hell, I was on a conference call yesterday and I was stumbling to find the english words for a few things....hte german words came just fine, thank you. Dunno why.

Re: Cooper's Debut at Risk....sort of

to be honest, when you compare GW strasse with PHP here in TX, PHP is really state of the art. I think when he travels a bit and sees how some other club facilites are he will change his superlatives. Also, when he plays in the AA for the first time will blow his mind.

But again, remember, the guy played for the USMNT and has seen some seriously nice stadia in the US too.

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I am not in love with the idea of Sechzig playing in the AA, that is clear. But it is an impressive facility, for sure. I loved it.

Another take on Cooper....

The article on the 1860 website is just a rehash of several of the quotes from the press conference yesterday already translated. I will translate a few of the new ones:

Lienen: "He is an all-rounder in attack and brings exactly the skills that we have been looking for."

Stevic: "When players want to develop their career, the personal aspects play a very important role."

Cooper, about ManUre: "I had the opportunity to train with some of the best players in world. I profited by this a great deal."

Lienen, about the liklihood of Cooper playing Sunday: "He must get over the 7 hour time difference in order to really feel like himself. That can take time."

One thing that was clear from Lienen's responses, he plans on protecting Kenny's debut from the unreasonable expectations the press and some fans are putting on Kenny. He really wants this to work out from Day 1. I would not be surprised if he kept KC on the bench until the last 15 mins. If 1860 is winning by alot, he might go in earlier. If it is close or 1860 is losing, I doubt he will put him in and risk connecting KC with a bad game.

IMHO, he gains nothing and risks much by forcing himself to put KC in. Better to let the guy aclimate and then start in the first away match than to pres and press him into service just to have a home debut.

Cooper Video Report

Nothing new here, just a montage of the various reports in video form.

Re: Another take on Cooper....

Maybe KC gets a 5 minute runout at the end of the home match? Just to get his boots dirty?

So, after giving myself a crash course in the 2.Bundesliga, I think 1860 has a shot at promotion this season . Pappas and Cooper should be a killer new combo up front. If the defense holds I see nothing holding them back.

My 2.BL predictions;
1. Alemmania Aachen
2. Kaiserslautern
3. 1860 Munich

The usual things will hold them back: 1) $$$, 2) health, which leads to 3) lack of depth.

Every year it has been the same since 2004: Great fall, key injuries, bring up youth to fill the gap, horrid srping leg, excape relegation by 3 points.

I am hoping for a break from this Teufels Kreis....and not simply the reverse of what has been happening either. I like to see a nice, slow and steady run keeping us in the top 6 and within striking distance all season.

I'd also like to be younger, have more hair, drive a porche and have a wife that is smokin'...but at my age I will settle for 1860's success and a bier.

In that order?

In Videotext I saw that the 2. BL coaches picked Augsburg to win the league. I don't know who did the survey or where it can be found (mainly because I haven't looked) but Augsburg could be a Geheimtip.

Re: Another take on Cooper....

I think if 1860 is up by two goals or more near the end, that's a real possibility......

I would too. Did you see the moves they made in the summer? Lukhay is building a team that will do well.....should do well.

My 2.BL predictions;
1. FC Augsburg
2. Arminia Bielefeld
3. 1860 Munich


Yes, that 3rd place was a "heart" prediction as I really wanted to put Energie Cottbus or Alemannia Aachen there, but I think if they can stay healthy, Lienen will know what to do to get these guys into the relegation playoff.


Harris, if you wanted to know about FC Augsburg, all you had to do was ask Garry or me. They are gambling revenue they expect from their new stadium and putting full confidence in Jos Luhukay to get them to the 1. Liga.

If they don't make it, I don't know how much financial trouble they will be in, but I'm almost certain they would have a big player sale.

Re: Cooper's Debut at Risk....sort of

Oh no. You're not one of "them", are you??