Eh? FIFA officially acknoledges Uruguay are 4x FIFA World champs.

Have you ever had an annoying Uruguayan friend claim that Uruguay were not only 2 x world champs (which is mind blowing), but 4x?
Well, god knows I love them (most passionate fans I've ever seen. Each Uruguayan glows with pride about their status as an unlikely historical giant).

After years of Argentineans and Brazilians telling me the same, I've always wondered.....why haven't I heard about this in Europe?
It's a pretty big deal to think that there were 2 official FIFA tournaments before 1930. Well..... I can now stop doubting them. FIFA has put it on their website what's been on their constitution for years: Uruguay are 4x World Champions.

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/fifa...rigin_8816.pdf

....Wow
So it's
1-Brazil 5
2- Uruguay and Italy 4
3- Germany 3
4- Argentina 2
5- England , France and Spain 1

Just incredible . I should have known. Only FIFA can allow stars on jerseys and Uruguay have 4.
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Apologies for making fun of Uruguayans for years over this. I just needed proof is all .

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Who are you trying to prank?? your document is no longer available, and I still see in "Past World Cups" Uruguay 1930 as being the first. So Uruguay won something else (I believe it was Olympic Tournaments), but not world cups.

Sorry mate. You should read the whole post first

1924 and 1928 Olympic games are the only 2 events that were officially organized by FIFA, Julles Rimet and his mob.
I just did further research and it checks out. It's even in the FIFA constitution.

To put it simply: 1924 and 1928 were BOTH Olympic titles and FIFA World Championships (at amateur level). *this is why they have 4 stars on their jersey. FIFA has to allow that. You can't add stars like in club football because you feel like it.

- To further conclude, I found that in the FIFA constitution (throughout the 30s, 50s , and 80s) officially regards those 2 Olympics (not 1920, not 1996, ....just 1924 and 1928) as equal to the 1930 World Cup.


Hope that clears it up mate. I tried to write this as simply as I could.

oops! Miss posted the link:

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/fifafacts/mcwc/ip-201_02e_fwc-origin_8816.pdf

there we go
"At the 1924 Congress, FIFA agreed to assume responsibility for the organisation of the Olympic Football
Tournament by ratifying the proposal that “on condition that the Olympic Football Tournament takes place in
accordance with the Regulations of FIFA, the latter shall recognise this as a world football championship”.

That's that in terms of debate LOL!

That's nothing compared to the 50 world cups the US won back in the 19th century

haha, yeah I actually have a friend from Switzerland and I joked to him about that. Though they're part of history now when you think about it.

The first fifa world final wasn't Argentina-Uruguay , it was Switzerland- Uruguay

What the ********? This doesn't make any sense as a joke, as a prank, as anything. It's just the most coherent of the monkey typings.

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Fifa can say whatever, and they can stitch whatever on their jersey, but until I see those 4 cups on the Panini sticker album at every world cup I ain't countin' them.

Haha mokeys can type better than that.

Re: Eh? FIFA officially acknoledges Uruguay are 4x FIFA World champs.

Now that it has been settled, I believe that we Chileans are the greatest of all World Champions, since the begining of the World Cup, since we have the biggest star of all, on our jersey :



(ROFL)

Re: Re: Eh? FIFA officially acknoledges Uruguay are 4x FIFA World champs.

If we recognize 1924 and 1928 Olympics title as World Champions title, why wouldn't we also recognize the other Olympics title later on? Because the World Cup started existing in 1930? You just cannot retroactively attribute titles to something before it existed.

Thinking that way, we can consider that until 1904, the British Home Championship was a "World Cup" considering that all existing national teams in the world were participating in the competition...

As for the number of stars on the jersey, it's not regulated by FIFA at all. Any country can do whatever it wants. For instance, Egypt wears 7 stars for its 7 African Nations Cup titles. Here is their jersey:

Guys I'm sorry that there are still 1-2 among you that don't understand what's common knowledge in South America and been officialized by FIFA.

In the simplest English:
- FIFA organized only 1924 and 1928. These events were special. They were held (at the request of FIFA) 1 month prior to the Actual Olympics. They were even officially called "The FIFA Amateur World Championship" at the time, and recognized today as equivalent to World cups.

- this means that 1904 , 1908, 1996, 2008, etc are just olympic titles. 1924 and 1928 were World Championships (again, they were special exceptions), and Olympic titles (2 in 1 deal). They were special tournaments.




- You... Colombian, coming from a real football country (I'm from England), please win something before even beginning to post on anything that has to do with the true legends of our sport. Let alone a 4x world champ that is the size of a small city.

Also, the 1930, 1932, 1950, and 1980 revisions of the FIFA constitution (I actually can upload real references) state: "Uruguay the four time FIFA world champions".
Guys , arguing about straight facts is always going to be difficult, let me tell you. Shocking.


If requested , Ill upload the images from a FIFA history book which states this and references the exact constitutions.

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You... Englishman, as you say in your own country... feck off...

Re: Re: Eh? FIFA officially acknoledges Uruguay are 4x FIFA World champs.

I'm pretty sure they wear those only in African competitions. They weren't there in Confederation Cup, for example.

Ghana also had 4 stars on their jersey representing their wins at the African Cup of Nations during Angola 2010, but they weren't on their shirt in South Africa.

Eh? England is the most overrated country in the history of the game.

It kind of makes sense. You have to think that the Olympic Title at the time was definitely the biggest crown in all of football. It was also sanctioned by FIFA as a world championship, so it would be correct to call Uruguay world champions 4xs. It would be wrong to consider them World Cup champions 4xs. I think if you list under the world champions list, it is right to give Uruguay 4, but it maybe should have a * by it to tell that two of the were pre-World Cup. They were officially recognized by FIFA, but pre-World Cup.

In fact, for the same arguments expressed by the OP, you are right about how many times you`ve been world champions.


Olympic champions are all, World champions in their respective categories (men or women), and all since 1924, recognized by FIFA, the same as Uruguay back then.

The same goes for under-17 and under-20 boys and girls categories, so if its up to total WC records, we`d have ourselves a new completely diferent Position charts, and Chile would be in it cause we also have a World Cup championship, due to our Olympic under-15 girls Championship , last year in Singapur........,awsome

Absolutely true, but the title counts the same, as it wasn`t our fault it was as it was. FIFA established the rules and whoever played it, played it up to them. Btw, Bolivia won the boys tournament, those games, so they also have one World Championship.