Ecuador vs Uruguay 11 de Octubre 2013, 17:00, Eliminatorias.

I agree with Manolo. Whether Uruguay would be training there since Monday or tonight it doesn't make a difference. It takes most people 2-3 months to completely adapt to the altitude 100%. Some players are exceptions to the rule and do it in a month or maybe less. Everyone's body is different. But from what i have heard for years from Ecuadorian commentators is that going to Quito the day of the game or within the 24 hour time frame causes less effects. Could be true. Sometimes in your first day in Quito you don't feel the altitude as much -cotton mouth, dry nose, etc....but within 2-3 days you start feeling it. So there could be truth to that. Uruguay isn't playing it dumb, believe me.

Either way the altitude isn't an advantage to us as much as previous Qualifier. During this Qualifier we did it mostly with players that play in clubs that are at sea level.

Dominguez- altitude
Banguera- sea level
Paredes- sea level
Guagua- altitude; Achilier- sea level; Campos- sea level; Morante- sea level (when he was actually part of the NT playing in Emelec)
Erazo- sea level
W. Ayovi- has played in both

Valencia- sea level
Montero- altitude
Rojas- altitude
Noboa- sea level
Castillo- sea level
Ibarra- Sea level
P. Quinonez- sea level
Saritama- Altitude
Mendez- altitude
Arroyo- sea level
Ener- sea level

Caicedo- sea level
Benitez- altitude
Jaime Ayovi- sea level and altitude
Fidel Martinez- i think sea level
Guerron- sea level
JL Anangono- sea level
Marlon- both
Narciso- both
Sornoza- altitude



And out of our starting line up Yoya, Montero, Guagua, and Dominguez are players that play in clubs that reside in the altitude. the rest aren't. So there's no real advantage to that if you ask me. And if there is an advantage it is minor.

I guess today we'll have a better idea of who will start- Yoya or Ener. Personally, I'll go with Yoya.

 

Yoya underrated?! He has always sucked. He was only OK in Ecuador but that's it lol. He never scored "a lot" of goals either, he had 8 goals in like 33 games in Mexico! He had enough opportunities to succeed. He failed in Mexico and then in the Middle East! Could he have gotten better? I don't know but I highly doubt it.

Chucho made any FW look better than they actually were. So anytime Yoya played with Chucho in the NT and scored is because everyone was covering Chucho lol. He hasn't even scored/played against tough opponents in the NT or in his clubs recently.

Martinez has proven to score against higher quality teams with his club in his league (better than Ecuador's league, where Ayovi failed), and internationally.

There is no doubt in my mind that Martinez is a MUCH better player than Ayovi!

For sure though, I rather plays Ayovi than Ener with Caicedo.

 

Jaime Ayovi doesn't suck. You just gotta know how to use him properly. He's one of those players. You can't compare Fidel and Yoya. They play totally different roles up front. The reason Ayovi didn't score the same number of goals in mexico as he did in Ecuador was because he was in teams where there was nobody feeding him the ball. When Ayovi was in Toluca there were no wingers on that team. They were garbage. I clearly remember that. All Ayovi had next to him was Sinha to generate plays for him. Without any attacking force, Ayovi gets lost. He's that type of player. Fidel is a different story b/c he generates the plays and the danger. They would complement each other well playing together IMO, but comparing them doesn't sound right to me. When Jaime was in Pachuca, same crap. He played with freaking Felix Borja up front and Felix was the #9 and Jaime had to create the plays. LOL which coach in their right mind would get Jaime Ayovi to create the plays for Borja? Obviously, that coach never knew how to take advantage of Ayovi. And Pachuca wasn't the right team for Ayovi either.

Ayovi becomes dangerous when you have people serving him the ball from all sides. left, middle and right. The season where he scored 23 goals for Emelec he had a coach with a brain who knew how to use him properly and get the best out of him. Emelec played a 3-4-3 that year if I remember correctly and it was Biglieri/M.Caicedo-Yoya-Rojas. I forget who played behind Ayovi but Rojas, Biglieri/Caicedo would always do the dirty work and simply pass the ball to him and he'd net a lot of goals. If Ayovi doesn't have those type of players around him, then he will appear to be less useful. Unfortunately the player who Ayovi felt most comfortable with was Chucho and he's played very little with Felipe up front. I think Rueda wants Ayovi to play Chucho's role. He's wrong. That's not gonna work. And not as a center attacking mid either. If I were Rueda i'd leave Yoya and Caicedo in the box for Friday. If anything get Caicedo to move down the field a bit and leave Ayovi in the box. But knowing Rueda he'll do the opposite. Just know if Ayovi starts, the wingers better be ready to f*ck sh*t up big time b/c they will be on their own. Valencia-Paredes and Montero-Walter.

 

I can see it all clearly now. Our guys will do 10 times better than that game against Colombia a month ago. Even better than when we beat Argentina, 4 years ago in Quito. We will have 3 times more opportunities to score like that one time we almost beat Brazil in Quito. Ecuador will be amazingly good but we will manage to lose like always. I'm not going to amargar myself and not watch this game. Wishing it was 2001 again...

 

Lol I agree. It's cause that defense is weak! Ecuador is going against two of the best and most expensive players in the world that play in the best leagues in the world. Those two are going against a sh*tty defense and players that play in the Ecuadorian league lol. Also Guagua is starting it seems. That's like playing against 3 in the back line.

I hope that Rueda puts a line up that can score hecka goals for us because Uruguay might make it rain goals like nothing.

 

Come on dudes,lets be a little positive,Ecuadors been here before ,back when none of our players played in Europe,dont forget we took on Brazil with rivaldo ,romario and co.Si se puede locos,we're in our mother f ing house,and we're going to bring it..enough with the whining,save it for after we win.then you can drink some red wine..no se ahueven, Si Se Puede XUXA!!!

 

Word!, stop with the bullshit negativity. Vamos Ecuador I believe in you!!

 

Vamos Ecuador ! I'm going to be optomistic... Ecuador 5 - Uruguay 0 ... 1 Gol from Valencia, 1 Gol from Noboa, 1 Gol from Felipao, 1 gol from Montero and 1 from Martinez

 

This made me laugh, love it!!

 

Lol you guys are right.... can't wait for the game to start. Too bad I'm at work lol. Can't yell or react like I do at home haha. Enjoy the game everyone!

 

Wow. I was hoping it was a joke. Ener and Guagua starting...

Ener better than Martinez?!........ ahhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! I don't even know what to say anymore. Just gonna watch the game.

 

any online links to the game?

 

http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/maxdeportv-canal---8.blogspot.com/

 

thanks watching it with my 2 y.o. son wearing yellow with pride. Can't wait!

 

Desaguebate chucha

 

Chucho would have scored from that header.

 

nos salvamos

 

je je chile 2 col 0 ..i hope chile wins so they'l be nice and relaxed for our game.

 

gooooooooolllllll hdp

 

Gooool! Valencia to Montero... No forwards at all lol. Caicedo is moving better though.

Valencia is playing his heart out! Great leader too... telling his teammates how to line up correctly.