East Asia Cup Match Threads [R]

Australia 9 Guam 0

Now have same goal Difference as North Korea but they've scored one more goal.

 

I think American Samoa wiill have no chance against Guam after this scoreline.

 

Roos are so far in the clear against Chinese Taipei, but they need to pile it on in the second half.

 

FYP

 

No record for Archie? No problem. Now they get to do the business end of things. Yay.

 

Stupid game plan. There was no barrier to playing Mooy and Babalj against NK except the one he'd created in his head.

 

This.

I wouldn't have had such a problem with the team v Nth Korea even - IF he had've played more young'uns against HK.

 

Because there was the risk of the "youngsters" having a "negative experience."

Being in a Holger Osieck camp is already a negative experience. They may as well be playing.


As per the FFA curriculum, the objectives of football are to; Score goals, avoid conceding goals, win games. The 1-4-3-3 might not be mandated across senior teams (nor shood it), but those objectives should still be in place if we are looking to progress as a nation.

They weren't. And we shouldn't be complacent just because we scored a very high number of goals in the last two games. Especially when it may not have been a necessary requirement if we hadn't risked missing qualification in the first two games.

When it comes to tournaments, you can't just hope other results have to go your way; you should be working to earn the qualification directly. The risk of missing out on the opportunities this provides (extra games next year against strong nations) is too great to leave to chance.

 

I don't understand some comments in this thread. We had 4 games in 8 days so we were always going to rotate players around. It makes sense to use your better more experienced players against the better opposition, and give some younger inexperienced players a go against the weaker teams. Its good that some of the young guys played so enthusiastically, but do you really think they can compete with the better teams right now? This was a perfect chance to get them into an international squad, some game time at international (although the last two teams weren't even at A League level) level and an opportunity to boost their confidence. Those that winge about team selections etc are just going to winge whatever happened.

 

Firstly Holger only rotated the keepers between games 1&2, for the one game we really needed our best team at their best Holger put out the oldies for their 2nd game in 48 hours, and played both games to 80mins or so before making subs.

Secondly HK is not a difficult team, only slightly better than the other two minnows.

Thirdly, against HK and Nth Korea we played 4 central defenders, 3 fullbacks, 2 midfielders and 1 striker. Not a team you would expect against what should be regarded as inferior opposition

 

Also, keeping the same starting XI mean we were fatigued in the North Korea game and had to drop deeper and play a reactive game, leading to the equaliser. It just made no sense.

 

In terms of more experienced, do you think Matt Smith is better/more experienced than Dino Djublic? Do you think Matt Smith has been in better form this season?

Do you think that Ivan Franjic is better/more experienced from an international perspective over Michael Marrone, who had already experienced Socceroos camps and had represented his country at U-20 level?

Do you think that they had more experience than Rogic or Babalj, who had at least played for the Socceroos in the friendly against Korea Republic? What about Cornthwaite? Was he better than those that didn't get as much game time?

Experience had nothing to do with it.

I'm not saying they were necessarily the players that should started games, but to use experience as an excuse is laughable. If we're arguing that, then we're conceding the fact that we believe the other players are simply not good enough to play at that level. If that's the case, why are they even there? Bring in Culina, Burns, Sterjovski, if we're going with that mentality. They're clearly the only ones we can rely on to perform.

That aside, do you think they did perform against DPRK or Hong Kong?

As for rotating, do you think that playing the same 12 players (Galekovic/Ryan aside) in the space of 48 hours counts as rotation? The same starting members, the same substitutions. No differences. Sure, he changed it around after that game, but to make players play so much in that short a time frame risks heavy fatigue and serious injuries. Is that ever a good idea? I'd hope not.

The first two games were played with fear. And it would be worrying to think that the second game against DPRK, especially, was handled well, because it absolutely wasn't. We were lucky to qualify as we did.

 

I think Holger should've AT LEAST thrown the young players in against Hong Kong.
Some of them sound alright. Remember Hong Kong don't have overseas players which means Holger didn't think the best up and coming players from the A-League couldn't take down a Hong Kong League XI basically.

 

Match Schedule (All times and date are in Korean, but its only few hours behind Australian time and date) -

July 20 (Saturday): Korea vs Australia (19:00)
July 21 (Sunday): Japan vs China (21:00)
July 24 (Wednesday): Korea vs China (20:00)
July 25 (Thursday): Japan vs Australia (20:00)
July 28 (Sunday): Australia vs China (17:15)
July 28 (Sunday): Korea vs Japan (20:00)

The venues have not been decided yet.

 

http://www.todayonline.com/sports/football/australia-eye-further-east-asia-cups-despite-asean-move

 

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/soccer-australia-eye-further-east-asia-cups-despite-081925374--sow.html

 

Better. I want us to be in the Suzuki Cup, if only to try things out. On paper, that is essentially OFC Nations Cup revisited, with Thailand and Indonesia being our toughest opponents. About damn time Australia became a full-time member of the ASEAN Football Federation, though.