News: Dynamo Stadium IV - Downtown deal must be done by end of year

Re: Dynamo Stadium Updates III - renewed UH lease for 2009 w/ option for 2010

Reading the paper at lunch today and ran across this TSU article with some details on the TSU contribution:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/5861226.html

Last sentence:

"Regents cautioned Rudley and McClelland to make sure TSU has good representation in the negotiations. "They're sharks," Javier Loya said of the Dynamo's leadership."

 

Re: Dynamo Stadium Updates III - renewed UH lease for 2009 w/ option for 2010

Academic types versus seasoned businessmen.

Sounds about right.

Like babes to the slaughter from my experience.

Reminds me of Back To School.

Academic Naive Teacher - "Now, where to build our factory?"

Rodney (Successfull Business Guy) - "How about fantasyland."

Spot on for the most part.



AEG got a sweet deal at the HDC. They realized way to late at school. Got people axed.

 

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Two things about this article. It cracks me up that TSU officials would be concerned about "sharks." I seriously doubt that anyone involved in this is looking to financially benefit from TSU's participation. TSU isn't bringing anything significant to the table financially and everyone knows it. The deal isn't going to hinge on anything having to do with money and TSU. From the financial side of things bringing in TSU at all is like asking your drunk cousin Louie to co-sign your mortgage loan.

TSU's involvement isn't about money, it's about political "feel good." It's somewhat absurd for the folks at TSU to think that they have anything to offer the "Sharks" who could somehow swindle the University financially. The sharks would have to get in line behind all of the other people who have financial problems with TSU. Using the analogy to Back to School, it looks like the TSU people are already in Fantasyland if they actually think they can get "taken" in what is a win/win/win/win situtation for TSU.

Bigger question for me. The article says that TSU would get 50% of concession sales. Please tell me that this means 50% of concession sales on days that TSU is using the facility!!!! If not, then the "Sharks" are at TSU not the other way around. That's a huge benefit to TSU, and I thought concession sales were one of the big problems at Robertson that Dynamo wanted to rectify with the new place?? TSU would be looking at a profit on their investment within a very short time if they are receiving 50% of all concession sales.

 

Re: Dynamo Stadium Updates III - renewed UH lease for 2009 w/ option for 2010

That would have to be on the TSU games only. How long is their season, and how many home games would they have, surely not that many, they wouldn't deserve any more than that.

 

Re: Dynamo Stadium Updates III - renewed UH lease for 2009 w/ option for 2010

what happens if TSU asks for a track around the field to make the stadium? that would suck ars.

 

Re: Dynamo Stadium Updates III - renewed UH lease for 2009 w/ option for 2010

They said they won't. They already have a track.

 

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TSU is going to get a locker room, no rent, share of concessions and probably end up ahead since they won't have to rent out other places.

The Dynamo is going to get black politicians to put subtle pressure on Mayor White.

We have to put up with football lines (for the love of God please figure out a better way to remove them) and the potential for a lost Saturday date or two in the fall.

I think that is about the extent of the deal. The $2.5M is not much. I bet most of it is deferred.

 

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It may not sound like the greatest deal in the world, but it's a deal. No track around the field, and Dynamo Orange all over the place. 100 yrs of the Houston Dynamo!!!!! Rep to the one that posts the big anounsment first when it happens.

 

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12 game regular season, home and away. So anywhere from 6 on up (post-season). This past season, there wasn't much overlap and since they are tenants, we get to schedule things to our benefit. 50% concessions sounds good for TSU...that's what we get at UH IIRC.

 

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I thought every day summer in Houston!

On another note-I just got back from SJ-and even got a chance to play next to Spartan (we were supposed to play inside-but that is another story for another day-just as in TX, tailgates ultimately rule)-but I wasn't impressed by the stadium. Our boys should be happy to be at the Rob. Spartan is really like a glorified HS stadium-well actually there are a lot better high school stadiums around Houston. I wasn't impressed with the facility. The city was nice though.

 

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TSU home football schedules

2008
Aug. 30 - Reliant Stadium
Sept. 27 - TBD
Oct. 11 - TBD
Nov. 8 - TBD
Nov. 15 - TBD


2007
Sept. 1 - Reliant Stadium
Sept. 8 - on campus
Oct. 13 - on campus
Nov. 3 - Reliant Stadium
Nov. 17 - on campus

2006
Sept. 2 - Reliant Stadium
Sept. 23 - Robertson Stadium
Sept. 30 - Robertson Stadium
Oct. 21 - Robertson Stadium
Oct. 28 - Robertson Stadium

2005
Sept. 3 - Reliant Stadium (game postponed to Nov. 25)
Sept. 10 - Robertson Stadium
Oct. 15 - Robertson Stadium
Nov. 5 - Robertson Stadium
Nov. 19 - Robertson Stadium


So for the last 4 years they have had 5 "home" games. Of course it is possible that with a better stadium deal they might try to increase that to six or seven home games. The Football Championship Sub-Division (formerly known as I-AA) does have playoffs that start on the last weekend in November. Home games are possible in that tournament.

 

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Probably TSU will hardly ever have more than 5 games per year at home, even if they go in with the Dynamo. Right now, the SWAC is a two division conference and does not send teams to the FCS playoffs, but instead plays a conference title game while the playoffs are going on at a neutral site.

Even with a nicer home field, they do not have the kind of program that will demand that teams that play against them in out of conference play must come to Houston. At most for the short and long term, TSU will likely only play five home games.

 

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This is not late breaking news for anyone that has dealt with them up there.

San Jose folks have a laugh here, go ahead.

Everyone watch that video from Fox. Us in Houston are no further ahead then we were this time last year. ********ing pathetic by AEG after all the love this town's people has shown Dom and the guys.

 

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Right on. I hear ya. However TSU, who don't sponsor an NCAA men's soccer program, finally came around to get in bed with AEG so they can have a nice gridiron stadium nothing more. Yes TSU is jumpin' on the a-train to Dynamoville yet their leadership is just as content to use someone elses stadium to stay in Div-1 athletics.
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AEG has more money than congress and that other noise you hear flippin are the shovels hitting the dirt in San Jose.

 

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seriously Javier, you're a multi-millionaire and make these deals like they're nothing. you know better than calling someone you're in negotiations with a "shark" in public.

i sell and buy from some people that i really, really despise. some of them are unethical, immoral, racists and down-right liars, but i would never call them a "shark" in public. we say this sht behind closed doors after we're counting our money.

...and if Javier was so concerned with "sharks" where was he when Priscilla was spending money like Marie Antoinette. Javier you went to Columbia, you get the reference or are you too busy hitting the poker table:

http://www.texansgab.com/2008/02/04/minority-owner-involved-in-gambling-allegations/

...or do you benefit when TSU rents Relaint @ $115,000 per game. who's wearing the dorsal fin now?

 

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I hear your frustration, but let's wait until the shovels actually hit the dirt in San Jose before we proclaim them to be ahead of us.

 

Re: Dynamo Stadium Updates IV - renewed UH lease for 2009 w/ option for 2010

Is this the thread where I complain about the last thread not hitting the 400 post mark?

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Re: Dynamo Stadium Updates IV - renewed UH lease for 2009 w/ option for 2010

Choice Energy Pres calls AEG sharks? Sounds like Choice Energy was in discussions with the Dynamo for shirt sponsorship rights and lost out to Amigo. What other context would that guy have?


TSU gets 20 year lease for $2.5 million, or approximately 2% of total cost? That doesn't sound worth it to me. The thing I find funny is the constant referral to the Dynamo getting political support for their deal thru this move. If the Dynamo believe that they don't really understand how politics works in Houston. Having TSU on board will not help them one iota politically. It just does not work that way.

 

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Well, the Dynamo per se don't need the political influence so much as Mayor White does/will. Once his term as Mayor is over, he'll probably be going for the Big Seat in Austin and having TSU's considerable influence will go a long way towards getting that Seat. The Dynamo having TSU on their side will help that. Now the Dynamo and the Mayor can say they are helping an ailing university, one that has gone through rough times due to a few crooks (none who are currently employed there, too), one that has a proud history, etc etc. You can't underestimate how much that will help the Mayor.

Is TSU getting a cheap deal? Sure, but we all know they don't have money and $$ isn't really the issue (as far as TSU is concerned).

 

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OL shared some thoughts about the stadium process in a pretty good discussion on the show last night:

Click here for the podcast.

 

Re: Dynamo Stadium Updates IV - renewed UH lease for 2009 w/ option for 2010

Man...how much longer until Newtex can set up one of these?

 

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Just barely stadium related

KHOU.com

Apparently there is a movement to build a new City of Houston municipal courthouse. The current one is just west of I-45 off Memorial on Lubbock.

I don't think I like the idea of this near the Dynamo stadium. Especially moving the HPD downtown station over there as well.