News: Dutch players at home and abroad worthy to be tracked in connection with the Dutch NT - Part 4

I thought he did okay. He got good marks from the media as well:

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/manchester-united-1-bayern-munich-6905395

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...er-United-v-Bayern-Munich-player-ratings.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...r--nemanja-vidic-or-wayne-rooney-9231377.html

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/match/133140/manchester-united-vs-fc-bayern-münchen/player-ratings

 

Buttner looked okay to me, especially considering he was up against Robbery. Not an earth-shattering performance by any stretch of the imagination, but he didn't embarrass himself, either. M.U in general was quite poor, no flow to the game and only had some 25-30% possession. At home. Buttner needs to transfer out if he wants to save his career. I don't think he will ever have consistent playing times at M.U. Let alone in the Dutch N.T. setup.

 

He looked ok(ish) defensively to me. Going forwards, not so much. But it may be worth it, giving him a go in the next friendly. Maybe.

 

Nathan Aké is on the bench today for Chelsea against PSG.

Lets hope he gets a few minutes

 

I have been following a lot of Norwich matches this season and cannot believe how poorly Ricky Van Wolfswinkel has done. 1 League goal on the opening match of the season is all he has tallied.
Truth be told he gets almost zero service as Norwich lacks creative playmakers or wingers that provides anything for him.
I really thought he would have been on the plane for Brazil, but he is going to be badly in need of a new club.

 

What do you guys think about Immers in Oranje?? I think with Sneijder and Raffie sucking he should be tried out in midfield for a friendly perhaps:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetbal/feyenoord/22447345/___Oranje_kan_Immers_gebruiken___.html

 

If Immers gets called up I will burn my orange shirt and everything else orange and declare from that day onward that I'm a German.

 

Jeezus people, tell us how you really feel

 

Well, since Koeman originally came up with this, I dont think its such a crazy idea

 

The feyenoord fans chanted 'lexie in oranje' in the game against goaheadeagles, and in the post-game interview the reporter asked Koeman if he thought that the fans were being ridiculous with that... - Cant expect him to say much else in such a situation.


That said though, if Immers wasnt so terrible infront of goal he would have been league topscorer both this and last season. But he is, and so he remains a midfield-version of dirk kuyt.

 

According to the Telegraaf Telesport rating Immers is on spot nr.5 for the player of the year award with 176 points. On spot nr 1 is Blind with 180 points. On spot nr 11 are both Clasie and Janmaat with 173 points.
No other Ajax player in sight in the list that goes till nr 27.
AD Sportwereld has Blind as the first Ajax player on spot 11 with an average rating of 6.41. No Immers in the list that goes till nr 20.
Voetbal International has Cillesen on spot 2 as the first Ajax plyer with an average rating of 6.71, Blind on spot 19/6.34, Immers on 34/6.21.

Well, the jury is still out on that matter

 

You can only be terrible in converting chances in front of the goal when you get there in scoring position anyway. So he has the feeling to be on the right spot, as well as setting up chances for the rest of the players. If you are as bad as some over here claim, then how on earth can he get as many chances as he does? If he only converted 30% of his chances we could sell him for a stupendous amount of money to some EPL idiot. But Lexy must be the most popular Feyenoord player in Amsterdam, as Ajax wouldnot have a chance on the title if Lexy did just that.

 

What about Immers at CM?

 

You may not like the way he looks on the pitch, but you have to take notice of one of best players in the world, Johan Cruijff when playing for Feyenoord, who chose/demanded a player beside him that is the spitting image of Lex Immers in football terms, Koko Hoekstra. (I wrongly mentioned Stanley Brard in other threads/earlier posts) There were far better players technically in the selection of Feyenoord then for that spot, but Cruyff noticed the special qualities of Koko, that were needed for the team. Making the stadium go ...wow..oooh etc. wasnot one of them.
The same goes for Immers. If he also scored more, he would be gone in no time.

 

Just like in the UK we have this "protection reaction". As soon a limited player gets criticism a counter-movement will arise to come and protect that player. During the whole Andy Carroll transfer drama a lot of people already knew that Carroll can never make it at Liverpool but that didn't prevent a lot of British footballzines to come out and write articles to defend him, citing "great stats". Same case in The Netherlands. We feel that the player gets "personally attacked" and we need to defend him from the harsh criticism, but there is a difference between the player and the person. A lot of the "great stats" are also cherry picked and ignore the bigger picture.

Immers is from the ADO Den Haag/FC Utrecht school of footballers. He will work hard every match with a lot of fighting spirit but he is also clumsy, making stupid fouls and loses the ball often and has no technique or finesse to speak of. Immers weak points are also no covered by the fact that a lot of Eredivisie teams are very poor this season.

 

Did you guys even read the damn link I posted 3 posts ago??
Here it is again:

http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/voetbal/feyenoord/22447345/___Oranje_kan_Immers_gebruiken___.html

I dont know if you guys can read/understand Dutch, but Koeman's comments are all there

 

I try to avoid reading De Telegraaf and if, by some miracle, I feel the urge to do so anyway I always remember to include a bag of salt while processing what I am reading.
Of course Koeman cannot say: " the legion are idiots. Immers does not have the technical ability and there are far better options for the NT than him. "
So he says something that is neither flesh nor fish, such as: "he works hard, any team can use a player that works hard. Oranje also. And Immers? Well, he seems to be learning a bit on ball control as well. "
Only an Immers-fan would translate that into "Immers should be in Oranje now"

 

My goodness. Who is running this team?